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    Top speed of 85ish..

    Hi All,
    Recently got a series 3 LWB back on the road, 74 vintage with the 2.25 petrol and an OD unit.

    Took it for a run today to blow the cobwebs out and comfortably maintained around 85km/hr. When it was bought and driven from brisbane back to the Sunshine Coast it was coasting along at around 100km/hr, that was 5 years ago and it has been sitting since. Question is would a tune up help (it idles fine) or would there be something else going on/I can do, to get that top speed back?

    Cheers, Chris

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    Hi Chris. I would start by ruling out stale fuel by running a tank or 2 of fresh fuel through it. Then go to timing/spark plugs etc???
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    If the motor hasn't been touched for five years then all that should be as it was, so after you put fresh juice in it make sure it's breathing ok. The air cleaner could be restricting air flow or a rat might have nested up the exhaust pipe.
    More than likely stale juice though.
    After that you have spark plugs, plug leads, carby, points, timing, tappet clearance, etc. to give a good going over.


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    Also check for dragging brakes and soft tyres.

    Other checks - throttle opening, badly incorrect toe in, flooding carburettor, manifold leaks, including dislodged pollution equipment, gummed up PCV. split PCV diaphragm.

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    Don't forget VERY significant effect of headwind or tailwind. A slight headwind can take the top off your speed, and a slight tailwind can enhance it significantly. At these speeds there is not much reserve power available, so a slight change in the total aerodynamic drag can make a big difference to your top speed. If you are testing on flat ground, doing runs in both directions is important.
    The Land Rover's drag coefficient is around 0.9 (compared with 0.3 or thereabouts for a modern vehicle).
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    Quote Originally Posted by C00P View Post
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    The Land Rover's drag coefficient is around 0.9 (compared with 0.3 or thereabouts for a modern vehicle).
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    (ours is a '76 LWB with Global Roamer O/D)
    Is it that high? I would have thought about 0.75-0.8. It will differ significantly depending on body type and wheelbase.

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    Theres a reason why Some landie drivers use the saying "aerodynamics don't count in low range."

    I've seen sheds with better drag co-effecients than shed class landies (better quarter mile drag times too probably)
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    Thanks for the replies everyone. A long list of elimination ahead it would seem.

    New fuel hasn't helped and I have just noticed a leak where the exhaust joins the bottom of the manifold - could this be the problem for not achieving previous speed? Those 3 bolts are a bugger to get at..

    Cheers
    Chris

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    Quote Originally Posted by JDNSW View Post
    Is it that high? I would have thought about 0.75-0.8. It will differ significantly depending on body type and wheelbase.

    John
    My apologies. The figure without roof rack was 0.678 (ie, around 0.7 as you suggested). It rose to 0.917 when a long roof rack was added (which is a pretty typical configuration). There was an 8% reduction in the CD when a tyre was placed on the bonnet (no roof rack condition), and the CD went up to 0.972 when there was gear placed on the roof rack (ie, getting close to the figure for a flat plate of the same cross-sectional area- 1.28).
    The model used was a LWB Defender, but I suspect a SIII would be little different (and possibly worse).
    To get the full story, see here:

    https://www.google.com.au/url'sa=t&r...,d.dGo&cad=rja

    If that link fails, google "The Effect of Vehicle-Roof Rack Configurations on the Aerodynamic Drag Coefficient CJ BURGER"

    Hope you find it interesting,
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisInAus View Post
    Thanks for the replies everyone. A long list of elimination ahead it would seem.

    New fuel hasn't helped and I have just noticed a leak where the exhaust joins the bottom of the manifold - could this be the problem for not achieving previous speed? Those 3 bolts are a bugger to get at..

    Cheers
    Chris
    No, if any effect, it would go better with a leak there. And yes, they are a bugger to get at - even more so when the most inaccessible one breaks when you try to tighten it!

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