Thread: Rivets & Steel Wheels

Hi Folks,

I have just acquired an interior spare wheel mount for the bulkhead and I need the correct fasteners to hold it in place. One person has said it is just riveted to the bulkhead, whereas some parts diagrams on line show the mount is held in place by a series of screws, each with a split washer, flat washer and nut.

the holder appears to have 8x holes, so I would require 8 of these fasteners.

Can anyone help sourcing these genuine fasteners, or in fact was this member held onto the bulkhead using rivets???

many thanks

Adam

Adam,

Hello from Western Queensland.

The wheel carrier would not have been riveted to the tub.

You can cheat on the fasteners a bit if you want to. Look up the part numbers in the spare parts manual and Google that number - “Land Rover part XYZ”.

Among the responses will be a couple of UK parts sites that give the nut, bolt or washer size. John Craddock will often list the size and thread.

Take that size info to a local fastener outfit and most of the time you will get what you’re looking for. Especially if it is UNC or UNF. BSF is another question.

Cheers,

Neil

Originally Posted by S3ute

Adam,

Hello from Western Queensland.

The wheel carrier would not have been riveted to the tub.

You can cheat on the fasteners a bit if you want to. Look up the part numbers in the spare parts manual and Google that number - “Land Rover part XYZ”.

Among the responses will be a couple of UK parts sites that give the nut, bolt or washer size. John Craddock will often list the size and thread.

Take that size info to a local fastener outfit and most of the time you will get what you’re looking for. Especially if it is UNC or UNF. BSF is another question.

Cheers,

Neil

For BSF fasteners and BA contact Bruce Gardner who trades as B.S.F. Bolts. He is in Melbourne 0408 056 255. He did have a good supply of BA taps and dies including left hand. For BSF taps and dies and most other systems contact me.

Originally Posted by S3ute

Hello from Sherwood.

There are normally three plates on the firewall.

One is the build plate with serial numbers etc. A second is the transmission use plate with the low-high-4WD instructions etc. The third is a smaller Pressed Metal Corporation build plate.

The style of the first two plates is unique to Series 3 trucks.

I’m a bit surprised if UK Series 3 do have different plates - other than the PMC plate. Any that I have seen were the same as those on my Australian built truck.

I can send you a photo if you PM me or post one up later - using my phone here
and donÂ’t know how to upload photos from it.

Cheers,

Neil

Neil, I managed to order the series 3 plates out of the UK, however do you have / or know a source for, the PMC plate that you refer to? I note it appears to be a white plate with Leyland and a body number stamped onto it.

many thanks,

adam

Originally Posted by acf321

Neil, I managed to order the series 3 plates out of the UK, however do you have / or know a source for, the PMC plate that you refer to? I note it appears to be a white plate with Leyland and a body number stamped onto it.

many thanks,

adam

Adam,

Hello again.

Glad to hear that you got the plates that you wanted from the UK.

As far as the third Leyland Australia plate goes, I’m pretty sure that you would have little chance of finding a plate other than off a wreck. The problem there is that it will have the build number of the vehicle it was originally attached to stamped on the plate. I’m not aware of anyone locally producing facsimiles of that plate.

Cheers,

Neil

Probably veering off topic, But Ive just finished restoring a 1949 Dodge Ute, Australian built in Adelaide from a Canadian CKD manufacture.

The wheels are 4.5x16" steel riveted but they are safety rims, with the safety groove for the bead that I thought wasn't introduced till 70's-80's, they are correct genuine stamped 1949 , The car never had a spare so I found 2 more wheels on eBay , stamped 1948, also safety rims.


I have them fitted with modern radials & running tubeless . VASS engineer was flabbergasted.

Originally Posted by S3ute

As far as the third Leyland Australia plate goes, I’m pretty sure that you would have little chance of finding a plate other than off a wreck. The problem there is that it will have the build number of the vehicle it was originally attached to stamped on the plate. I’m not aware of anyone locally producing facsimiles of that plate.

I investigated getting plates made some years back.
No problem, all they need is a sample.
There is a setup cost then so much per plate but it works out quite expensive unless you are making a lot of plates and can sell them easily, certainly not worthwhile for a one-off.

The Leyland plate is an aluminium square with printed details in blue, there must be a low cost way of scanning one & making a reasonable replica.


Colin

If you are only looking at appearance you can do what I did for the labels uner the light and wiper switches (1970 2a) - create them on paper using Gimp or similar, based on a scanned sample, laminate, and trim to size.