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    Series 3 Brake Reassembly

    G'day Everyone,

    I have recently become the proud new owner of a 1977 Series 3 Land Rover SWB. First thing I did was put her up on the chocks and pull the brakes apart, as I was told these needed looking at, and boy did they ever. Now it is probably important to note at this stage that this is my first project car and Land Rover and I have a lot to learn about Land Rovers and mechanical set up, but willing to have a crack, just a side note there anyway.
    Back to the story now. So I pulled all the brakes and hubs and bearings apart back to the stub axles and having found most of the gear such as drums, pads, seals and cylinders all pretty much rubbish, it was off to buy some new bits. A bit of money later I came home with brand new everything. However here in lies the problem. As most of the seals were perished when i pulled the axle assembly apart there was just oil and grease everywhere. My main problem now is working out which bits need grease and oil and what sorts upon reassembly. I have acquired a few manuals and these are helpful, yet occasionally presume you know a little about the car. And I am also mindful that there may be new products out there.

    So my understanding thus far is:
    Rear:
    Diff oil - lubricates diff and axle shaft
    Wheel bearings - smeared in grease, but what sort, how much and where else
    What are the steps to reassemble? Is there anything I should know apart from put it back on opposite to what I pulled it off?
    Grease the inside of axle spline cap as well?

    Front:
    Diff oil - Lubricates diff and axle shaft. I have not pulled apart back to the CV? Joint as it has been driven of the front wheels (as rear axle broken) and there was no grinding or noise and steering seems fine (thought i would get her up and running and maybe look at this later if necessary). Will however drain the oil in here and refill (unless it fills from the diff?)
    Wheel bearings - same set up as above so presume the same reassembly

    My main dillemas as you can see is what grease to use and where and also the steps in repacking the wheel bearings.

    If anyone is well versed in these steps, which im sure most of you are, if you could take the time to write a reply that would be much appreciated, or else perhaps point me in the direction of a website or the like where this may be documented.
    I apologize if this is simply stuff but I am some what of a beginner

    Hoping that someone can help and thanks in advance.

    Cheers, Josh

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    Quote Originally Posted by keeffe88 View Post
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    So my understanding thus far is:
    Rear:
    Diff oil - lubricates diff and axle shaft
    Wheel bearings - smeared in grease, but what sort, how much and where else
    What are the steps to reassemble? Is there anything I should know apart from put it back on opposite to what I pulled it off?
    Grease the inside of axle spline cap as well?

    Front:
    Diff oil - Lubricates diff and axle shaft. I have not pulled apart back to the CV? Joint as it has been driven of the front wheels (as rear axle broken) and there was no grinding or noise and steering seems fine (thought i would get her up and running and maybe look at this later if necessary). Will however drain the oil in here and refill (unless it fills from the diff?)
    Wheel bearings - same set up as above so presume the same reassembly

    My main dillemas as you can see is what grease to use and where and also the steps in repacking the wheel bearings.
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    Front and rear - wheel bearings are greased only to make sure they are greased before the oil gets to them - use wheel bearing grease. Make sure the seal is the right way round, and the surface it runs on in reasonable shape. Don't grease inside the spline cap - the felt washer is meant to keep the oil out of here. Wheel bearings should be adjusted so as to have just perceptible play.

    Front. The swivel housing has its own oil supply - level plug on the side, drain at the bottom inside. While you are at this stage it may be worth removing the swivel housing to see how things are, and at the very least check for any free play on the swivel bearings and for correct preload.

    If you don't have a workshop manual, get one, preferably the factory one, but Haynes is OK.

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    Im with all of the above but with regards to the axle splines, the drive flange splines and grease you should clean the splines with a small fine wire brush and then on assmbly add just a smear of grease to the flange and the splines prior to assembley and then before you push the cap on put a little grease around the outside edge on the splines nut and thread to help prevent rust
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    Josh, welcome to the forum, if you put in your location (see top R/H corner of post) there may be some one close by that could give you advice and help first hand, there is a site that you can download full workshop manuals, if you do a search of this forum for workshop manuals you should find it, or someone will come along with the web site address, good luck, Regards Frank.

    Try this Series III manuals
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    Welcome Josh
    You can buy a CD copy of most landy workshop manuals here AULRO Classifieds - Main Index - Powered by PhotoPost Classifieds
    Sales support the website,and they are cheap.
    For a new Series Landy owner you cant go past "Mustang Sallys Landrover Pages" If you google that(in australia) you will find a whole heap of aussie series info.
    Enjoy tinkering,ITS ADDICTIVE!!!
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    Thanks Everyone for the info.
    I have 2 manuals in paperback form, the haynes and the landrover versions. I just needed to clarify some of the info in them which is why i posted. I have done some more asking around and think i now have a fairly good idea of how it all goes back together. Snowed under with work unfortunaltley this weekend, but fingers crossed next weekend ill be able to get down and dirty and hopefully but the landy back together as well .

    Thanks again for your replies, and welcomes.

    Josh

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    Welcome to the forum Josh.
    There are a few guys around Brisbane that are very knowledgeable and helpful. What Suburb are you in?
    If you get stuck just holler and someone will help you out.
    Cheers,
    Russ

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brisruss View Post
    Welcome to the forum Josh.
    There are a few guys around Brisbane that are very knowledgeable and helpful. What Suburb are you in?
    If you get stuck just holler and someone will help you out.
    Cheers,
    Russ
    Gday Russ/Everyone,
    I am in Bulimba, thats south side. I have a fair idea of what to do now, plus my neighbour across the road has been very good on advice and very helpful. However as you all know, restorations are costly and my main concern is having spent the money on new bits, not wanting to put it back together wrong, and just finding out how to do it right, being somewhat a novice. If anyone was in the area hands on help would be much appreciated, as well as any written advice.
    I look forward to more chats on the forum, and maybe trips away when the landy is up and running.
    Cheers, Josh

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