130 tubed wheels / tubeless tyres?

[The Couch]

Gday again, maybe a really stupid question but i hear there is no such thing.
I am currently looking for a 2nd spare rim for my 130, when looking at the existing rims they say tubed, but the BFG tyres say tubeless

Please assist

[Don 130]

130's are supplied new with 'tube only' (Part no. ANR5593)rims but you can buy the same rim marked 'tubeless'( Pt#ANR4583)as well. You may have insurance issues in the event of a crash if you use your 'tube only' rims without a tube, but I hear some people claim to have succesfully done so. I believe import is the way if you want a set of tubeless rims.
Don.

[The Couch]

Thanks Don, so it looks as though i could buy either of the rims and fit a tubed tyre without compatibility issues only potential insurance issues.

Cheers

[The Couch]

oops i mean tubless tyre!

[Benz]

think you will find there will still be a tube in there.

[The Couch]

I have texted the previous owner and asked the question, will let you know.

Thanks

[Lotz-A-Landies]

Originally (in the 1960s) tubeless tyres were fitted to standard rims, some manufacturers included a hump on the rim to prevent the bead slipping off and breaking the seal in a puncture situation, the valve stem hole size also reduced. These were termed "safety rims" which is now synonymous with "tubeless rims".

Tyres meant to be used with a tube have a smooth inside to prevent chaffing of the tube.

Tubeless tyres are left rough inside (aren't smoothed) and therefore have a tendency to chaff the tube reducing the tubes life. Also if the inside of the valve stem hole in the rim is rusty (very common when tubes are used) the tubeless valve stem may not seal on the rim.

Tubed tyres are a rare commodity these days so the only answers are to either use the tyres tubless on the standard rim or use a good quality (either Michelin or Bridgestone) tube with the tubeless tyre.

You can tell if there is a tube, as you can see the valve stem poking through the edges of the valve hole, and can push the valve stem in and out a little.

A tubeless valve stem bulges over the edges of the hole to make a seal and you can't move the stem in and out.

BTW: be aware that there are two offsets in the 130 rims, all are 6.5". The current one has a positive offset and the early ones have a negative offset.

[juddy]

130's are supplied new with 'tube only' (Part no. ANR5593)rims but you can buy the same rim marked 'tubeless'( Pt#ANR4583)as well. You may have insurance issues in the event of a crash if you use your 'tube only' rims without a tube, but I hear some people claim to have succesfully done so. I believe import is the way if you want a set of tubeless rims.
Don.

Up until the 2012 model year the 130 came standard with Tubless HD Rims, no idea why they have changed again. You cant even option the Rims..

[The Couch]

Well well, after a quick inspection it seems that i can see the valve protruding through the rim and can push the valve in a liitle, so there is a tube in there!!

Ok, so without really understanding the for's or against.........is this a good thing or a bad thing to have for touring ie ease of repair / punture resistance??

Cheers

[JDNSW]

Well well, after a quick inspection it seems that i can see the valve protruding through the rim and can push the valve in a liitle, so there is a tube in there!!

Ok, so without really understanding the for's or against.........is this a good thing or a bad thing to have for touring ie ease of repair / punture resistance??

Cheers

Very broad answer - tubed tyres are more likely to get punctures, but tubeless tyres are more likely to leak due to rim damage or rust. Which is easier to repair depends on the nature of the repair and what equipment you have. As Diana comments, tubeless tyres with tubes are very likely to develop leaks.

John