Puma snorkel warning

[nugge t]

I hope this does not get me in strife with the mods as I have a product for sale in the Verandah but I think that people need to be aware that fitting a snorkel to a Puma does not guarantee an airtight system for deep water crossings.

The original system is push together plastic and as can be seen in the photo, has huge gaps...around 2mm on each side so if the duct is pushed to one side, that leaves a massive 4mm gap for water to be sucked in. Any water entering at this point goes straight to the air filter box and the next stop is the engine. Consequences of that on a Cape trip are not what any off us want to think about.




The real problem is that it is out of sight out of mind and getting a snorkel gives a false sense of security. I would strongly recommend anyone with a snorkel, getting a fix whether it is mine or another system, before hitting a water crossing. It is easy to understand why LR calls their system a raised air intake and not a snorkel.

[fonfe]

They call it a raised air intake as that's exactly what it is.
Its not designed to be a snorkel, its meant for vehicles that travel dusty roads, anyone who plans on wading should not be buying the LR one

[Disco Muppet]

They call it a raised air intake as that's exactly what it is.
Its not designed to be a snorkel, its meant for vehicles that travel dusty roads, anyone who plans on wading should not be buying the LR one

Except Nugget's not talking about the LR factory RAI.
He's talking about the Safari Snorkel, which is exactly as it's name suggests, a snorkel for wading.
As such, it's a valid concern.

[nugge t]

It is ANY snorkel. The ducting shown in the photo is the original LR airbox and duct that is on the inside of the guard.

It doesn't matter what you bolt onto the outside because they all still use the original ducting which is as shown.

Great having a water tight seal between your new snorkel and the bodwork when the other side has huge gaps in it.

The reason LR call it a raised air intake is because they know the ducting leaks like a sieve.

[gitney]

Hi all,
If you install a safari snorkel yourselves or get a reputable installer and they follow the safari installation instructions that come with the snorkel, They clearly show you how to separate these suspect joins and seal them up with sikaflex or similar.
This although arguably not as good as nuggets aftermarket fix does do the job well if your diligent with the sealant.

[Disco Muppet]

The reason LR call it a raised air intake is because they know the ducting leaks like a sieve.

It is a Defender

[nugge t]

Hi all,
If you install a safari snorkel yourselves or get a reputable installer and they follow the safari installation instructions that come with the snorkel, They clearly show you how to separate these suspect joins and seal them up with sikaflex or similar.
This although arguably not as good as nuggets aftermarket fix does do the job well if your diligent with the sealant.

That is excellent that they are doing that.

Do they recommend doing anything at the air filter box end?

I certainly do not remember that being included when I fitted mine a few years back, or it being included in the Airtec instructions when we fitted Witchdoctors....could be corrected on that as I have turfed the instructions but neither Dave or I remember it.

[Chops]

Thanks for the heads up Nugget.

I'm hoping to get a good look at mine this weekend as whilst away on our last trip I noticed the box just inside the guard had what looked like a split/crack in it, running down what looks like a welded/moulded join.

So depending what I find I may be looking at various options,, including getting LR to fix their workmanship/parts.
I'll try to get some pics when I check things out.

[fonfe]

Except Nugget's not talking about the LR factory RAI.
He's talking about the Safari Snorkel, which is exactly as it's name suggests, a snorkel for wading.
As such, it's a valid concern.

Sorry my bad, thought he was talking about the LR item as he mentioned LR but not safari.
Thought it was normal practise to use sealant on any snorkel install though?

[Bundalene]

IMHO the original air intake adapter inside the guard is a piece of rubbish and I doubt whether it can be successfully sealed.

I know there are some shonky installers out there as I have seen a couple which had the snorkel bolted on the outside with no remedial work done under the guard at all

We eliminated this adapter altogether with a write up in our Puma Build post. Nuggets design provides an off the shelf solution without having to do your own proto-typing and trial and error.



Erich