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    More viscous fan questions -(I did run a search first)

    I have found most of what I was looking for from a couple of searches, but I have a couple more questions I couldn't find answers to. I think the viscous fan is stuffed - it is still easy to spin when the engine temp has topped 95 degrees - this is an accurate reading from a mechanical temp gauge, backed up by a reading from my IR thermometer. Noticed it starting to get hot sitting in the drive through the other day, I pulled into the carpark and tested the fan straight away. The rest of the coolant system is fine - coolant is plentiful and fairly new, as is the radiator and thermostat, so that's why I'm thinking the fan? On the road, sits on 85 to 90 depending on if i'm going up or down a hill.

    2 questions I have are -

    1 - Until I get a new one, is there any way of locking the fan up for the time being - I don't really want to fork out for a new one until after Chrissy?

    2 - Apart from increased fuel consumption (not an issue - it's only a weekender), and the engine taking longer to heat up, would this have any detrimental effect on anything else?

    If these questions have been answered in the past, please forgive me, but I did run a couple of searches first...

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    Quote Originally Posted by bacicat2000 View Post
    I have found most of what I was looking for from a couple of searches, but I have a couple more questions I couldn't find answers to. I think the viscous fan is stuffed - it is still easy to spin when the engine temp has topped 95 degrees - this is an accurate reading from a mechanical temp gauge, backed up by a reading from my IR thermometer. Noticed it starting to get hot sitting in the drive through the other day, I pulled into the carpark and tested the fan straight away. The rest of the coolant system is fine - coolant is plentiful and fairly new, as is the radiator and thermostat, so that's why I'm thinking the fan? On the road, sits on 85 to 90 depending on if i'm going up or down a hill.

    2 questions I have are -

    1 - Until I get a new one, is there any way of locking the fan up for the time being - I don't really want to fork out for a new one until after Chrissy?

    2 - Apart from increased fuel consumption (not an issue - it's only a weekender), and the engine taking longer to heat up, would this have any detrimental effect on anything else?

    If these questions have been answered in the past, please forgive me, but I did run a couple of searches first...

    Cheers - Gav.
    Gav,

    The likelihood is that it isn't working correctly if the temp increased markedly at idle, and the fan hadn't started to lock up.

    Locking them isn't really a good idea as the plastic blades on old fans have been known to fly off if spinning too fast, and WILL cause a lot of damage and can prove fatal if you happen to be leaning in over the engine at the same time...I have seen one even severely dent a steel RRC bonnet

    A new coupling isn't as expensive as engine damage.

    If it proves to be faulty, then a new one will be a sensible $$ outlay IMO.

    I say Bah Humbug, fix the Rangie first


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    Quote Originally Posted by justinc View Post
    Gav,

    The likelihood is that it isn't working correctly if the temp increased markedly at idle, and the fan hadn't started to lock up.

    Locking them isn't really a good idea as the plastic blades on old fans have been known to fly off if spinning too fast, and WILL cause a lot of damage and can prove fatal if you happen to be leaning in over the engine at the same time...I have seen one even severely dent a steel RRC bonnet

    A new coupling isn't as expensive as engine damage.

    If it proves to be faulty, then a new one will be a sensible $$ outlay IMO.

    I say Bah Humbug, fix the Rangie first


    JC
    Thanks for that JC - that's one thing I would never have thought of, and the thought of wrecking the near new radiator or worse makes me think hard... Something for SWMBO for Chrissy, or a new viscous for the Rangie... Hmm - easy decision! One cool Rangie coming up!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by bacicat2000 View Post
    Thanks for that JC - that's one thing I would never have thought of, and the thought of wrecking the near new radiator or worse makes me think hard... Something for SWMBO for Chrissy, or a new viscous for the Rangie... Hmm - easy decision! One cool Rangie coming up!!


    In that case, a happy Rangie is a happy other half, so she should understand

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    She is very understanding when it comes to the Rangie - the understanding is that I keep it off the driveway and she stays happy.

    She is like a forensic scientist sometimes - if I have been working on it on the concrete - even if I clean up all the mess, she will still know it's been there...

    Also, what should I expect to pay for a new viscous fan, and any recommendations on where to look - I haven't had to buy anything "land rover" specific for it yet, so I haven't started using a particular supplier.

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    Been out the bush when the hot weather hits with peoples 4wd's or varying types, and been a few fix's for a viscous, bash the crap out of it with a hammer or drive a tek screw into it to lock it


    Disclaimer: I take no responsability for said advice, although I'd do it again....and again beats ruining a good weekend

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    Quote Originally Posted by rovercare View Post
    or drive a tek screw into it to lock it
    That actually crossed my mind - then I thought I'd be labled a butcher if I ever tried it But I'm glad to know I'm not the only one to have that thought - at least I know that's an option if I get stuck somewhere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bacicat2000 View Post
    That actually crossed my mind - then I thought I'd be labled a butcher if I ever tried it But I'm glad to know I'm not the only one to have that thought - at least I know that's an option if I get stuck somewhere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rovercare View Post
    Been out the bush when the hot weather hits with peoples 4wd's or varying types, and been a few fix's for a viscous, bash the crap out of it with a hammer or drive a tek screw into it to lock it


    Disclaimer: I take no responsability for said advice, although I'd do it again....and again beats ruining a good weekend
    With similar disclaimer: had a toyota one fail on me in the above circumstances, pulled the two halves apart and reassembled with the addition of a small twig clamped between the viscous coupling halves. Worked a treat until a new coupling was obtained. No-one died.

    These fans are notorious for throwing blades, viscous coupling or no. Had one let go when my wife was driving north of Coober Pedy, kicked down to overtake and 'bang'. Another let go when the car was on a dyno, went through the radiator that time. No way would I free-rev these motors with my head under the bonnet.

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