Thread: 2010 Defender drive train problems anyone else?

LR have left the defender to wither on the vine for many years.I'd say they can't wait to get rid of it and sell the new one on the same platform as the discovery.Really they are a bunch of dickheads,they have the last true 4WD but seem hell bent on destroying it. Pat

It would be interesting to see a pole on this. Maybe one day when we see some one broken down in a remote area and endangered through known problems in Transfer caes or gear box LR may start to pay attention. time to make notes of conversation with LR when dealing with them and should these problems keep occuring, then perhaps legal advice. Don't know but it sure is very worrying. This is happening to so many people. What would be the comparison of numbers of Puma with gearbox transfer problems to numbers being sold in Austrlaia. We are only a very small market So something tells me that the number of us that have experienced problems would be quite high. Quality Assurance is something that is obviously lacking so that tell me that perhaps negligence is a probabiltiy. Don't know, just my thoughts.

Jake

Hi All
Thanks for your input I have just got off the phone from Land rover and found out that the front CV joint cage has fractured. Apparently this has not happened before, on their inspection the CV joint had no manufacturing or assembly faults. There aparently has been some force put through it such as spinning the front wheels and then suddenly gripping (the word abuse was mentioned). In other words the car has been thrashed!!! NOT BY US!! I stated we haven't even towed anything with it and haven't even used it off road as we are carefully running it in. Anyway the parts will not be in until January the 7th. We will see what happens then. BTW We bought it with 10km on the clock but it had 100 on it when we picked it up?

Hi Again

The dealer I bought the Defender from just rang and reassured me that it should be covered under warranty it shouldn’t have happened and that no one else to his knowledge drove the car prior to delivery? I'll keep you all updated. I feel better now as I know my missus is priceless but I don't think she likes the idea of being traded for a car!!!

Originally Posted by PAT303

.Really they are a bunch of dickheads,they have the last true 4WD but seem hell bent on destroying it. Pat

Not the last - Jeep may lay claim to that with the JK Wrangler. LR need to take a lesson from them.
When it came time to upgrade from the TJ they listened to the masses and built something designed to go offroad and improved an already good thing. Front and rear lockers, electronic swaybar disconnects, bigger body, better fit and finish, more standard equipment etc etc.
LR just seems to go backwards

sorry Flatty, ment to say that i hope the outcome is positive. seems all to easy for LR to use the 'abused' clause.

Originally Posted by jake

It would be interesting to see a pole on this. Maybe one day when we see some one broken down in a remote area and endangered through known problems in Transfer caes or gear box LR may start to pay attention. time to make notes of conversation with LR when dealing with them and should these problems keep occuring, then perhaps legal advice. Don't know but it sure is very worrying. This is happening to so many people. What would be the comparison of numbers of Puma with gearbox transfer problems to numbers being sold in Austrlaia. We are only a very small market So something tells me that the number of us that have experienced problems would be quite high. Quality Assurance is something that is obviously lacking so that tell me that perhaps negligence is a probabiltiy. Don't know, just my thoughts.

Jake

This is exactly my concern, being stranded in a remote area.

I confirm everything in writing by sending an email prior to returning the vehicle to confirm what is to be done and then sending another email when I get it back confirming what was done, what wasn't done and what now needs to be done as a result of dealer screw ups. Also send photos of problems whenever possible.

Can some with experience set up a poll on Puma warranty claims please.

I think it would be very interesting to find out, and may be of use somewhere down the track.

date purchased
year and model
warranty claim i.e diff, g box, steering, electrical, corrosion, fuel, water leaks, suspension and what ever I can't remember reading.
time to rectify

I'm touching wood all over the place hoping that my initial problems are final and the car is sound from now on. But the more you read the more nervous one becomes about the reliability of pumas. There seems to be such a broad spectrum of issues, it's not like they all suffer from one common problem.

Originally Posted by Flatty

Hi All
Thanks for your input I have just got off the phone from Land rover and found out that the front CV joint cage has fractured. Apparently this has not happened before, on their inspection the CV joint had no manufacturing or assembly faults. There aparently has been some force put through it such as spinning the front wheels and then suddenly gripping (the word abuse was mentioned). In other words the car has been thrashed!!! NOT BY US!! I stated we haven't even towed anything with it and haven't even used it off road as we are carefully running it in. Anyway the parts will not be in until January the 7th. We will see what happens then. BTW We bought it with 10km on the clock but it had 100 on it when we picked it up?

DON'T accept that you may be the cause of the failure. Absolute rubbish. These CV's are renowned to last 200,000 to 300,000km easily with standard tyres. I have them in my RRC with WAY more torque than a Puma, AND 33" tyres AND they get a caning Never broken one yet. Even better; the Puma has a reduced turning circle, protecting the CV's from stresses even more!

I really think it is most likely poor manufacturing and/ or no lube.

Make sure you tell them that you are NOT to blame, AND they can ring me if they like and I'LL tell them

JC