Thread: Alternate engines for 01 D2 v8 petrol?

Originally Posted by PAT303

Why?,because a bloke comes on here and ask's a simple question and next thing he knows people are talking about doing exactly the opposite to want he wants and about engines etc he knows nothing about and spending three times what he wants to spend to modify his vehicle in a way he has no interest in?. Pat

Gentleman had his query answered in the first few posts, the rest is just boys talk, extra entertainment.

Originally Posted by Brian Hjelm

That "boat anchor" is not just the world's most successful production engine, but also the world's most successful competition engine. First produced in 1955 and in production ever since in capacities from 265 cubic inches to 427 cubic inches. Lowest cost per horsepower of any.

Sorry mate the small block chev biggest factory capacity is 400 cu.in., 427 is the big block 409?/427/454.. Don't think a chev has ever won a race in Formula 1, Ford has, many many many times, Fords small block stated life in the early 60's and is still available now, this engine has won from Indy cars to formula 1, aftermarket performance parts are as readily available as any chevvy part and priced equally.
Just because millions of chev small blocks were made doesn't make them any better than any other make, Fords Rule, always have, always will, Regards Frank.

Originally Posted by bee utey

My mate the tree feller wouldn't swap his 350 Chev powered 2 door RRC for anything, with the exception of a 350 Chev powered automatic one in better nick. Can't get him to upgrade as his keeps going, year after year after year.

That's great, I have no problem with that, or are you saying other brands are inferior? Regards Frank.

Originally Posted by Tank

That's great, I have no problem with that, or are you saying other brands are inferior? Regards Frank.

The Rangie's manouverability and comfort suits him perfectly. The torque of the Chev is perfect for dragging/restraining logs. The reliability is exemplary. All he wants is an auto to better apply the load gently. I wouldn't drive it as I am not him. Horses for courses I say. Did I say anything about inferiority? My RRC has a hi comp 3.5 and suits me fine.

I would be looking at something from RPI,
RPi Engineering - V8 Engine - Carburetion and fuel Injection

These guys do performance and reliability.
I saw a P38 video clip somewhere once with a WRX lined up for a drag with moded P38 they ran the 1/4 mile and the camera never panned back past the P38`s rear wheels the WRX won by half a cars length.
Then the camera pans all the way back and lo and behold there is another WRX on a four wheel trailer behind the rangie.

Originally Posted by bee utey

The Rangie's manouverability and comfort suits him perfectly. The torque of the Chev is perfect for dragging/restraining logs. The reliability is exemplary. All he wants is an auto to better apply the load gently. I wouldn't drive it as I am not him. Horses for courses I say. Did I say anything about inferiority? My RRC has a hi comp 3.5 and suits me fine.

I worked with a bloke that had a SWB toyota FJ ? series with a 400 chev in it, he loved it, no roof or doortops, a humungous roll cage which looked like it got a regular workout, it sat about 4" higher on big fat tyres and he always wore a full face crash helmet whenever he drove it. Asked him why the helmet, he said grabbing his helmet, "come and I'll show you".
He got in and strapped himself in, revved it to about 5 grand and sidestepped the clutch, well the bloody thing just flipped over on to it's side, just a bit too much torque, me thinks, Regards Frank.

Originally Posted by Tank

Sorry mate the small block chev biggest factory capacity is 400 cu.in., 427 is the big block 409?/427/454.. Don't think a chev has ever won a race in Formula 1, Ford has, many many many times, Fords small block stated life in the early 60's and is still available now, this engine has won from Indy cars to formula 1, aftermarket performance parts are as readily available as any chevvy part and priced equally.
Just because millions of chev small blocks were made doesn't make them any better than any other make, Fords Rule, always have, always will, Regards Frank.

Frank, you are out of date.Small blocks are currently made in 427 c.i. capacity. The first experimental ones saw the light of day in the 60's under the scrutiny of the late Smoky Yunick when he had the development job at Chevrolet division. Smoky opposed the production of the big block as he reckoned they could get all the inches they then needed out of a small block. GM internal politics ruled and Smoky being an outsider lost the argument and the first big blocks appeared. The 348/409 were Chev. truck division babies and the 396/427/454/500+ Mark IV big block family are descendants. Truck division lobbied hard to keep "their" engine. The big inch small block was then shelved for forty years. Smoky was pretty peeved about this and for the rest of his life would fire a verbal blast at the GM people involved at any oppotunity. He never forgot a slight.

I don't recall a Ford engine ever winning a Formula One event. Cosworth engines did. Ford only paid the bills and got to put their name on the cam covers.

Originally Posted by Brian Hjelm

Frank, you are out of date.Small blocks are currently made in 427 c.i. capacity. The first experimental ones saw the light of day in the 60's under the scrutiny of the late Smoky Yunick when he had the development job at Chevrolet division. Smoky opposed the production of the big block as he reckoned they could get all the inches they then needed out of a small block. GM internal politics ruled and Smoky being an outsider lost the argument and the first big blocks appeared. The 348/409 were Chev. truck division babies and the 396/427/454/500+ Mark IV big block family are descendants. Truck division lobbied hard to keep "their" engine. The big inch small block was then shelved for forty years. Smoky was pretty peeved about this and for the rest of his life would fire a verbal blast at the GM people involved at any oppotunity. He never forgot a slight.

I don't recall a Ford engine ever winning a Formula One event. Cosworth engines did. Ford only paid the bills and got to put their name on the cam covers.

So so wrong, the formula I Ford engine was developed from the the Ford Indy car motor which was a 289 block with heads developed by Ford in America, later engines were developed with cosworth heads. The 427 Ls chev block is a direct copy of the Ford Romeo Modular engine, i.e. "Y" shaped block with crossbolt mains, which was developed by Ford for passenger cars back in the mid 60's. Ford engines have won more F1 races than all other engines combined. How many chevs have won a F1. Cosworth also do a head for Mercedes, does that make it a cosworth, Regards frank.