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Thread: Disovery V8 Series 1 1997, homemade snorkel

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    Quote Originally Posted by big guy View Post
    A snorkel was 1st designed to get clean(er) air to the motor,
    Any proof of this????


    One of the earliest vehicles I know of with a snorkel was the Austin Champ - designed to be capable of deep wading. All breathers were vented to the snorkel and the electrics were sealed/pressurised.

    Austin Champ



    I think you are confusing snorkels with the fresh/cold air intakes which the "tuning" crown fit to their silvias and golfs.

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    Exception to every rule.
    Nice work, wonder how long that took in your searches on Google!!!

    Any peabrain that dunks their newish vehicle in or under water willingly has to have their electrical currents in their head examined just before they start experiencing electrical faults in their vehicles for the rest of its life.

    Just check some of the flood damage cars.
    I know several car dealers and none would buy sell or even wreck a flood damaged car. Everything rusts, smells and continually shorts out.

    Snorkels sure do have a raised intake but still mainly for cleaner cooler air.

    Modern four wheel drives do not even call them snorkels anymore- possibly because folks suddenly think they also own a submarine.
    They are now referred to as RAI or raised air intakes as mentioned before.

    I know you own an Isuzu and it will outlive the cockroaches on this planet(albeit deafen them) and I am sure its very capable and sure it can cross deep rivers, it will however not stop the rest of the car from rotting.
    Even the inside of seats are known to have rusted away in some flood damaged cars in the past without owners even knowing till suddenly they collapse.

    Water is nasty, silent and what it brings with it, is abrasive.

    Thats just how it is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by big guy View Post
    Exception to every rule.
    Nice work, wonder how long that took in your searches on Google!!!....
    Nah, just a few seconds of searching my memory...

    The fact is you are wrong about the purpose of a snorkel.

    Just because some people find road tyres and no snorkel sufficient to drive their 4x4 between inner city bars, doesn't mean that everyone needs no snorkel.

    Sometimes when you are in the middle of nowhere it is necessary to cross a creek to get where you are going. A snorkel is small insurance against water getting into the engine.

    Diffs and other components are easy to drain of water, but a hydrauliced engine is hard to fix in the middle of nowhere.

    Now how about being a "big" guy and admitting you are wrong???

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    I admit I am wrong, so very wrong.
    I was wrong to try and even let you know the real purpose of the snorkel.

    I sincerely apologise to you and those that do not believe me.

    Sure they can help raise the true wading height of a vehicle and do make it much safer for even shallow water crossings etc but main reason for fitting is still for clean cool air.

    A snorkel is insurance(could happen) but not assurance(assured) if you get what I mean.
    A snorkel is not designed to be water proof, how often do I have to tell you.

    Big Guy is what I was called after an incident I will not get into right now but has stuck for many many years.
    How about not getting personal but sticking to the Land Rover theme.
    Rub me that way anytime, it is after all just a car and meant in a light hearted manner.

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    Quote Originally Posted by big guy View Post
    A snorkel is not designed to be water proof, how often do I have to tell you.

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    Mine is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigJon View Post
    Mine is.
    Exactly. Anyone (sensible) who fits a snorkel, blocks the intake after fitting to make sure the engine stalls (meaning the snorkel is sealed and watertight).

    Along the same lines:
    Quote Originally Posted by safari
    Safari Snorkels are positively sealed in order to provide the engine with the ultimate in protection during river crossings
    Looks like the biggest worldwide snorkel manufacturer is also wrong ...

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    Airflow Snorkel Kits for 4x4, SUV and 4WD off-road vehicles, Parts and Accessories - Jeep, Toyota, Nissan, Land Rover Discovery, Defender, Mitsubishi, Suzuki, Ford, Holden, Mazda, Kia

    Air flow is the primary for a snorkel, if you seal it thats great but water crossings are secondary to its intended use.

    I give up.

    You win.

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    I love the bit about "Cleaner air " what absolute BS ! seeing 99% of snorkels usually pass the air back through the original filter anyway /
    next its , supply cooler aitr than that from under the bonnet . yeah and preheat it up again in the same air filter system
    Then theres the ram effect , absolute garbage uless you can do over 200KPH . Air flow . absolute BS !!
    Nope , snorkels are increasing your wading ability , and to inform all others that your a tough 4Wdriver !!

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    I thought the real reason you have a snorkel is so that you can hear all the induction noise when you wind down the windows...

    Oh and it means you can salvage the engine from the wreck when all the electrics fry under water... (Isuzu's excepted!!!)

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    Heres a link to the making of Elmo's snorkel - photo posted earlier.
    http://www.aulro.com/afvb/discovery-...o-snorkel.html

    I made my D1 snorkel out of normal 3" exhaust tube, and some mandrel bends but welded it all up rather than using rubber elbows/clamps.
    I also ran it in between the inner and outer guard rather than along the outside of the guard. It enters the guard at the back just in front of the A pillar.
    There's enough room in there to run 3" tube, but don't think you'd squeeze in the thick rubber elbows and clamps.
    I've got ABS in mine so had to shag around and move the air filter box inboard a bit to be able to connect the snorkel to it.

    3" snorkel head is around $40 from any truck spares place - compared to about $90 at 4WD outlets.

    Steve

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