Thread: Perentie - Tubeless Tyres

Wow this thread escalated while I've been away! Thanks everyone, given the issues highlighted I'm now thinking of just getting some black 7" Dynamic Rims (the thicker heavy duty model) with +20mm offset, I'm hoping with these I'll be able to get away with both 235/85 and 255/85 tubeless tyres so I have some flexibility in the future. I'm a bit wary of too much negative offset but I'm not too sure how much offset should just fit the 255's. Cheers guys

Originally Posted by Bearman

You can get the fatter tubeless valve stems from tyre shops to fit the tube type rims on Landrovers.

Yes you can, but these wont fit Disco 1 rims. I only say this as I run Disco 1 rims as my "trip" wheels and occasionally I have had to use a tube.

Originally Posted by 87County

More seriously, the small amount of tubed tyres in existence here now mean that
(1) tyre fitters have little expertise in fitting them (so tubes can be damaged on installation),
(2) the inside surfaces of tubeless tyres (usually the only type of tyre available) can roughly manufacttured/finished and thus will be abrasive for tubes,
(3) the tyre fitters make no effort during tyre replacement to remove rust from the inner surfaces of rims (they need to be taken back home and treated/painted before the new tyre is fitted) , and (4) the quality of readily available tubes can be quite poor (a bit of a lucky dip really)

I have had all four of these problems with my Defender, and on average tubes only last half as long as the tyres I have used. Apart from the most recent problem, which was a malicious attack, I have often had tubes fail, more times when I used Michelins, and mainly due to the rough surface inside. I still run tubes on my LR wheels, but also have a set of Dynamics without, fitted with KM2s that I use for serious off roading. I have thought about changing the road rims, but don't like the D1 or the alloy rims, so have left it for now.

Jeff

Originally Posted by numpty

Yes you can, but these wont fit Disco 1 rims. I only say this as I run Disco 1 rims as my "trip" wheels and occasionally I have had to use a tube.

From memory the tubeless stems that fit Disco rims are the standard diameter ones albeit a little longer than the normal ones.

I have always run the defender on tubes, I have not had issues with dismounting tyres at low pressures nor flats due to rubbing through the tube. I think the main reason for people wanting to use tubeless is that they don't know that they are running tubed tyres and it comes as an unexpected expense when told they have to pay $35 extra per wheel for new tubes.

I have a number of Disco one steel rims so have the choice of running tubeless just have not done it yet, maybe next set of tyres.

Originally Posted by dingsy

Wow this thread escalated while I've been away! Thanks everyone, given the issues highlighted I'm now thinking of just getting some black 7" Dynamic Rims (the thicker heavy duty model) with +20mm offset, I'm hoping with these I'll be able to get away with both 235/85 and 255/85 tubeless tyres so I have some flexibility in the future. I'm a bit wary of too much negative offset but I'm not too sure how much offset should just fit the 255's. Cheers guys

I run 255's on 20mm offset on a County ( Same as Perentie) no problems.. I did roll a tyre off during extreme 4wd'ing, low pressure was the culprit but I think it wouldn't have happened with 235's & 5.5 or maybe 6" rims as they would have had better grip on the rim. Can't have it all unfortunately..

Originally Posted by Bearman

The "Wolf" 130 rims (6.5") came in either tubed or tubeless. I have a set of the tubeless ones. Part number is ANR4583. They do come up for sale occasionally.

As well as having several wolf tube type rims, I have a set of 5 tubeless rims bought secondhand with good tyres on them. Former owner replaced them with wider ones and bigger tyres. Appear identical to wolf tubeless rims but do not have a Land Rover part number on them. Apparently they were imported as aftermarket parts to Western Australia where the vehicle they came off was previously was. Most likely came out the same factory that supplied Land Rover.

Originally Posted by DeeJay

I run 255's on 20mm offset on a County ( Same as Perentie) no problems.. I did roll a tyre off during extreme 4wd'ing, low pressure was the culprit but I think it wouldn't have happened with 235's & 5.5 or maybe 6" rims as they would have had better grip on the rim. Can't have it all unfortunately..

Thanks Deejay, I'll go ahead with the 7" Dynamics with the 20mm offset. The black wheels actually look pretty good on the perentie - I can already see the military enthusiasts shaking their heads though!