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24th May 2004, 10:18 AM
#1
Classic Rangie suspension options
Hello All,
I'll have to replace the springs and shocks in my 2 door rangie in the near future and was wondering if anyone has any suggestions about which brands are the best.
I'm not interested in a super high lift or anything, just a smooth ride on road, and good handling for light to medium off road work (It's not a cliff climbing rock hopper, it's more of a daily driver + occasional weekend trip).
Are there any brands that make OEM shocks? I was quite happy with the standard handling so if I could get the same springs and shocks again I would. Or maybe the same shocks, but slightly taller springs?
I'd consider replacing the springs with taller ones if I could retain the suppleness of the ride. If it's a trade off for hight vs comfort, I'll take comfort. If I can get both, I'd only lift it by about 1 1/2" to 2". I'm running 31x10.5x15 RMT's on sunraysia's so a little more clearance would be nice.
I'm also interested steering dampers, especially the coil over steering damper and the great results that BB has gotten. Any other wise words out there?
Any and all suggestions / experiences / approximate prices / resellers are welcome!
I'm in Sydney and will be fitting the parts myself, so inter-state suppliers are cool.
Thanks in advance,
Bryan
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24th May 2004, 01:07 PM
#2
The best selection of springs around is at Les Richmond Motors Melbourne.
http://www.lrautomotive.com.au/home.html
Shocks I would use Bilstien then Koni.
Talk to Andrew Richmond, he will give you some of the best advice on which springs would suit your normal loads and driving conditions.
LRM also sell the stock shocks.
regards
Michael.
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24th May 2004, 04:43 PM
#3
It depends what you want to spend. If you can afford Koni's or Bilstiens for shocks you won't look back. If you don't want to over capitalise on an old truck and you just want to freshen it up a bit, just chuck a set of Monro Magnum gas at it and some King Springs at it. Munros are and Kings are around $150 pair for shocks and $130 a pair for springs. About a 2 hour job to do the lot.
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24th May 2004, 05:38 PM
#4
Suspension
Gday Bryan,
On my 84 Rangie I upgraded the springs and shocks with 2" lifted King Springs all round and also Rancho 9000 adjustable shocks. I chose the Ranchos as they were the same price as the Bilsteins but with an obvious difference of being able to adjust them. I have them on the middle setting of 5 and the old girl handled beautifully and didn't have alot of body roll at all. With 9 settings of adjustment you can set it how you like. As for price I cant remember the exacts, but from memory it was around the $1200 for the whole lot including fitting because I was too lazy to do it myself but I will try to find the exact prices for ya.
It definitely made a huge difference to my Rangie and was well worth the money spent.
Shano [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif[/img]
Hang on I found some prices:
Rancho RS5000 $210.00 per pair
Rancho RS9000 $380.00 per pair
King Springs 2" lift $165.00 per pair
These prices were from June last year so may have changed but it gives you a guide anyway. 8)
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24th May 2004, 06:50 PM
#5
Cost price for Kings are $100 a pair from te factory, I put a set of raised in mates disco last month and trade was about $135. I've heard alot of people break the ends of Ranchos on Rangies and Discos. Konis are also adjustable and I haven't heard of any breaking.
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24th May 2004, 07:17 PM
#6
THe only problem with King and OME springs is the range is very limited. most ride to hard.
Rancho shocks have the best advertising budget they must be good NOTTTTTTTTTTTT.
One size fits all with rancho, the eyes are know to break off, try using them over corrigated roads they fade so fast you may as well have nobne on, yes they work at low speed and for short runs there are many better options around.
to get the best from your car work out what load you carry what ride hieght you want then buy the springs to suit, remebering if you fit heavier springs to your RR tyhen the bogue unit becomes redundent, even more so if you increase the ride hieght.
other places to have a good selection of springs are Bruce davis, AMV.
Do some research on your uses.
DONOT buy rancho crap.
Michael.
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25th May 2004, 09:47 AM
#7
Thanks for the responses guys.
I think I'll do some ringing around, as I really don't want it to ride like a toyota 1 tonne ute!
I think rancho's are definately out of the budget, and a bit over the top for my needs.
Re the bogue unit, it's already been taken out of my truck (stock height) and it's always handled quite nicely (until recently), but I've got another old truck I use for spares (see for sale/wanted section) that has a new looking unit in it.
It rode way too hard when I was driving that around. It's got a set of old bilsteins in it. Would the shocks have more of an effect on the handling or the self leveller?
I was thinking of transferring it over to try and get mine handling a bit better, but it's not needed you reckon?
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25th May 2004, 02:54 PM
#8
If you haved removed the level rider you should fit progresive rate disco rear springs. I have a set of standard height kings in my car and found that it actually imroved the ride. I think this is because the standard disco units closed up quick thus invoking the stiffer rate more quickly.
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25th May 2004, 03:38 PM
#9
I imagine the progressive springs would prevent a bit of body roll too? If that's the case the disco springs sounds like the go. Are stock disco springs progressive, or just the king replacements? What about the fronts?
how would a pair of replacement stock shocks handle 2" higher king springs? would I need to get longer shocks? If so, is there anyone who manufactures stock shocks but longer?
Thanks for the info. It's always appreciated.
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25th May 2004, 04:51 PM
#10
Standard Disco rears are progessive however the top coils close up very quickly which then make them harsher over bumps because the less the number of active coils the higher the rate. The kings initial rate is higher so the coils don't close up as quick which means the rate climbs when you load it but not as readily when you go over a bump. Fronts are not progressive in Kings or stock. Kings standard height lifted my Disco about 1 inch unloaded. I just fitted a set to a mates prior to a Kimberly trip I fited raised to the rear and standard to the front as Brad was carring heaps of gear and also has a 120l tank. The car sitts well even with full load. This car has standard lenght shocks and has been ok through a Kimeberly trip but I reckon you may have trouble if you are a rock hopper, drive up undriveable track type of bloke
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