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    12V caravan battery charging

    310watts solar (11amps)
    310AH of batt storage (1 x gel, 2 x AGM)

    When i woke this morning the Batt V was 12.2. Yesterday was totally cloudy. Today has been 95% sunny and the batts reach 12.9( no batt use during the day except water pump) but after 4 hours (night time) use of just the telly(3.5a max) the bats now reads 12.36.

    still there?

    two questions,
    I have a Meanwell S-240-12
    already installed, (and access to 240v) but I am not at all sure how long I can leave it running,,,

    This battery drain cant be normal,, can it?

    can I sneak a third question in?
    any easy way to check a gel batt?
    it is the First battery in the bank so
    heavily wired

    I hope that all makes sense,,
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    I don't think that is bad at all. What is the max output into the batteries? If they are fell cells they don't need to be running at 14.5 volts like car lead acid batteries. Anyway 0.6v drop on 4hrs is pretty good.

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    After re reading. I'm pretty sure you're not meant to mix different types of batteries on the output of the inverter. I don't mean brand i mean gell cell vs lead plate batteries. The solar panels are not necessarily running 100% efficient just because its sunny. If you're panels are charging the batteries and running your tv it could explain poor performance if you do indeed believe it should be better. If those 3 batteries are wired in parallel it doesn't matter if one has more wires to it. It is more likely a battery is on its way out or because the batteries are mis matched and have different charge and discharge characteristics.

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    The way I read it....


    if the batteries are good and you reached a static voltage of 12.9v, your 300ah of battery storage has gone from 100% to 70% in 4 hours.....so average 22.5amp load.


    or, with a 3.5amp load...you have 46ah of usable battery storage...

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    Thats the sort of figure i worked out Rick,, but there just isnt that sort of load--
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    Try fully charging batteries seperately, then put a moderate load on them for 15min or so. Guessing you have one dead one, and it will drop its voltage very quickly. May also be stopping the other two from fully charging.

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    If I disconnect all the batts, can I assume the one with the low charge is the bad one?
    charging all three at 48 hours each to check Volts is a worry,,,
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    I'm a bit confused What's the purpose of the S240-12 device? From the specs ...you input (say) 240V AC and you get (say) 12V DC out of it. ... Is this device running the TV? So is the TV a 12V DC device? Or is the S240-12 powered from the batteries via a "12V"- sinewave inverter to get clean 240V AC which feed the Meanwell which feeds the 12V TV?... ..if it's the latter then you might only be getting about 70% efficiency out of the inverter plus more losses through the S240-12 ...
    How did you calculate the 3.5Amp current draw?

    EDIT: do you have protective diodes in the solar charging circuit to prevent the batteries charging the panel at night?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pedro_The_Swift View Post
    If I disconnect all the batts, can I assume the one with the low charge is the bad one?
    charging all three at 48 hours each to check Volts is a worry,,,

    Maybe...


    Think a dud one may get a surface charge pretty quickly, this may fool the solar controller into float and result in none of the batteries actually getting a full charge.


    Would be worth a go tho, I certainly would as a 1st step, and if one is considerably lower, drop it out and see how it goes with just the two others.

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    Hi Pedro and first off, that device is a power supply and not a battery charger, so do not leave it connected and running permanently.

    Next, at 12.2v, your batteries are were about 60% SoC.

    A fully charged battery will have a 100% SoC voltage reading of 12.7v.

    At 12.9v, you were seeing the “terminal” voltage, not the state of charge voltage.

    While charging a battery, the terminal voltage is what is being applied to the battery and this can be as high as 15+v, depending on the type battery charger you use.

    But no matter what type of charge you use, the voltage will drop after you remove the charging device.

    In your case above, if you had measured the battery, say 30 minutes after you removed the charger, your battery voltage would probably be 12.3v.

    Next, you can mix any number of batteries, of any type and all will be fine.

    If you need to check the batteries, you will have to separate them and let them settle for a few hours, then measure each battery.

    Hope this helps!

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