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    Iveco Daily 4x4 , had mine for almost 12 months now, 30,000 km and as far as off road ability its vastly surpasses any Landrover I've owned, better wheel travel, more articulation, 101:1 low low , will climb anything you throw it at, MUCH better on sand than a Defender, alleged 48degree rollover angle , Infinetley better on Corrugations than a Defender or 80/100 series cruiser , 3 x hydraulic diff locks standard, ABS auto deactivates when CDL engaged YAY !!!

    Its quieter and smoother than the Defender or Cruiser on the highway too. The cabin fresh air is via a huge filtered air box, no more dust chewing .

    Downsides - it only has a 90L fuel tank as standard . any more negatives Nope (turning circle is midway btwn 110 and 130)

    If you don't like the complexity of the most fuel efficient 3.0L twin turbo diesel in the world (it averages 15.5 L towing the caravan) and to fit the OP requirement well then pull out the engine/gbox and very easily fit any engine /gearbox you want because it has a short jackshaft to the transfer case.

    (BTW the new Fuso Canter 4P10 engine is in fact the 3.0L iveco engine , the engine is so good the Japs are now using it)

    Another bonus - you sit about a meter higher than a regular full size 4x4 so you see over the scrub and spinnefex, the difference in visibility when touring is awesome.

    Also it fits on 95% of outback tracks, (just fold the mirrors in)

    some dash cam clips from recent touring (all with caravan )

    [ame]http://youtu.be/cX3e6VYqLFw[/ame]

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    Series 1?
    By all means get a Defender. If you get a good one, you'll be happy. If you get a bad one, you'll become a philosopher.
    apologies to Socrates

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    Quote Originally Posted by sheerluck View Post
    "Eventually"
    Thats the killer,I've had to do 10 point turns on many inland tracks in the 110,east of Georgia Bore on the Talawana was a 15 pointer in and out and the dunes through the wiggly bit north of the fuel dump on the CSR would send you insane. Pat

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    DESIGN AN OUTBACK, REMOTE AREA, EXPEDITION VEHICLE

    Well since you guys will listen and my wife won't...

    A 6x6 101. With reversed diffs (like bills 6x6 series) and reverse cut 4.75R&P. On coils up front, and factory D1 springs out back with D2 airbag in place of BOGE unit.

    Accessories
    Hydraulic winch (extended drum width, 15,000lb), LED & HID lights, on board air, shovel, axe, mattock etc.

    Rover diffs.
    - Upgraded CVs and axles front middle rear.
    - Ashcroft ATB front middle rear.
    - Braced, strengthened, improved.
    - Vented discs.

    Tyres
    - 35s, A/Ts. Same on camper trailer. 2 spares on trailer, 2 spares on 101.

    300tdi
    - Bored out to take 4.6 rover top hat liners.
    - Oversize slugs to fit.
    - Head studs. Increased in tension. Tightened to tension in twice as many steps as RAVE.
    - Compound turbo. 30Psi.
    - WTA intercooler.

    Gearbox
    - R380, cooled, increased oil capacity.
    - 130 clutch.

    Transfer
    - LT230
    - 1.003:1
    - Under drive
    - ATB diff

    101 Fitout
    - Exocage
    - Ambulance A/C unit.
    - Auxilliary electric air conditioning compressor.
    - 3 rows of 2 seats.
    - internal toilet.
    - ROPS
    - Caravan panelling exterior. Slightly lower and narrower than 101 cab. Caravan windows fitted throughout. Caravan roll out shade awning on passenger side.
    - 4 bunks for kids.
    - Roof area covered with solar. (1kw?)
    - Fridge. 80l
    - Freezer. 60l
    - Honda 1kw generator.
    - high quality, high current battery charger.
    - 400lt of diesel. In at least 4 tanks.
    - 100Lt water

    Towing my Tvan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AndyG View Post
    Series 1?
    Len Beadell did a lot with one!
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    A serious answer would be a mechanically sound defender or discovery with Koni shocks and Michelin tyres with increased fuel capacity and secure internal storage.Leave all the chest beating BS for the internet,travel light and drive to the conditions. Pat

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    Quote Originally Posted by kreecha View Post
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    A 6x6 101. ...
    Good start (apart from the noise and room in the cab). However a 6x6 101 is no longer a 101 - unless you are planning to put an axle in the middle.

    Quote Originally Posted by kreecha View Post
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    Rover diffs.
    This bit was a joke though, right??? No matter how much you upgrade them, they will still break.

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    Tyres
    - 35s,
    Std are 36", so you are going down 1" in diameter

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    300tdi
    - Bored out to take 4.6 rover top hat liners.
    - Oversize slugs to fit.
    - Head studs. Increased in tension. Tightened to tension in twice as many steps as RAVE.
    - Compound turbo. 30Psi.
    - WTA intercooler.
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    That is a lot of work to polish a turd and produce something that is about .05L more in capacity than an HS2.8. The bottom end of a 300tdi probably wouldn't handle a compound turbo.


    Sorry but that is just horrible, and would break down before you even got to a remote area.


    And before anyone says I haven't said what I would build, I have posted before in other threads...

    roughly:
    Mog high speed portals with CTIS.
    dual air springs at each corner (redundancy)
    Dual compressors to supply air springs (redundancy)
    ISUZU 4HE1-XS, plus ISUZU 6-speed
    LT230 or ATLAS t-case
    105" Wheelbase cabover (dual cab) ute design

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    Quote Originally Posted by PAT303 View Post
    A serious answer would be a mechanically sound defender or discovery with Koni shocks and Michelin tyres with increased fuel capacity and secure internal storage.Leave all the chest beating BS for the internet,travel light and drive to the conditions. Pat
    I find my 130 works just fine with the 120L main tank and 70L auxilliary. People don't seem to value economy but on last year's CSR trip, the two Landcruisers accompanying us used 400 L more (100 series) and 500L more (HJ47). Trip left from Brisbane and covered 10500 km in 4 1/2 weeks.
    The Iveco might be a good choice though carrying capacity only needs to be in proportion to how much you carry.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PAT303 View Post
    A serious answer would be a mechanically sound defender or discovery with Koni shocks and Michelin tyres with increased fuel capacity and secure internal storage.Leave all the chest beating BS for the internet,travel light and drive to the conditions. Pat
    A classic rangerover with Koni's, 4BD1T, Isuzu gearbox etc. Got one of those.

    I agree completely with packing light and driving within the limits of your gear.

    Quote Originally Posted by isuzurover View Post
    That is a lot of work to polish a turd and produce something that is about .05L more in capacity than an HS2.8. The bottom end of a 300tdi probably wouldn't handle a compound turbo.
    Depends entirely on the tune. Compound turbos just mean a wide boost curve, the peak boost is essentially adjustable and it's the combination of boost, fuel and timing that determines how bad life is for the bottom end.
    I'm sure a 300tdi with a compound turbo set, boost in the mid 20's and a safe clean tune without over-advanced timing will survive just fine.

    Quote Originally Posted by isuzurover View Post
    roughly:
    Mog high speed portals with CTIS.
    dual air springs at each corner (redundancy)
    Dual compressors to supply air springs (redundancy)
    ISUZU 4HE1-XS, plus ISUZU 6-speed
    LT230 or ATLAS t-case
    105" Wheelbase cabover (dual cab) ute design
    Nice plan, but I think I'd take the 4BD1T over the 4H series. Did I tell the story of a digger owner who had a nut vibrate loose on one of the (rear mounted) timing gears? Got really expensive in a matter of seconds and no access to repair without pulling and stripping the engine.

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    Outback tourer.. My take..

    Some interesting things coming up here!!! Why anyone would want Rover Axles is anyone's guess.. Ceramic clutches are harsh, and wear out the flywheel and pressure plate before the disk itself!!! No turbo??

    Here's mine.. Most of you have seen it. LR 101, which comes with a solid flat ladder chassis, forward control driving position giving plenty of room behind, twin under slung fuel tanks carrying 180lt of diesel, twin rear spares mounted outside at the rear for weight distribution, std Salisbury Axles with 3.54:1 diffs (strongest LR axle available and reliable) mounted on two leaf parabolic springs, Intercooled low pressure turboed Cummins 6Bt 5.9 Diesel engine linked to a ZF 5 speed gearbox designed to take the power and torque, LT230 transfer case (known for its strength with a few mods), internal double bed, Webber, Camp Oven, Eskies and food boxes.... Still to come lightweight hardtop, rear under floor hydraulic winch, simple roof rack with top lights and tie points for lightweight items.

    I've gone for big lazy power on solid axles, mechanical injection, box like vehicle. Having spent many a month trucking around Africa and a fair few weeks out bush (lots more planned), I've learned that the 'KISS' theory is the best!!
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    'When there's smoke, there's plenty of poke!!'
    'The more the smoke, the more the poke!!'

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