Thread: info wanted on 97 Defender 90 NAS please !!

Try http://www.d-90.com/


Ron

Originally posted by Gaz69

I assume this was the most powerful defender sold anywhere. For my next project i need to do a bit of research to keep my engineer happy about power to weight ratio but have had no luck.

Must be an 'interesting' engineer to be concerned about your proposal?

Should register it up here, 351 and jag rear end Cortina and a supercharged/injected 383 EH doing the rounds of the haunts lately. Both fully reg'd and engineered here. I'd think that would be more power to weight than a 4ltr in a fender.

Weird eh ?

p38arover wrote:

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>Try http://www.d-90.com/ [/b][/quote]

Thanks Ron. Had found that link, but could not find any specifications. Might email someone there and request some help.

Hellspawn wrote:

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>Must be an 'interesting' engineer to be concerned about your proposal?

Should register it up here, 351 and jag rear end Cortina and a supercharged/injected 383 EH doing the rounds of the haunts lately. Both fully reg'd and engineered here. I'd think that would be more power to weight than a 4ltr in a fender.

Weird eh ?[/b][/quote]

Sounds like a couple of fun machines!!! The engineer over here in Vic wants an equivalent vehicle to what i want to do in regards to braking capacity. Hence the requirement to find out which defender has the largest brakes and most horsepower. He is not real keen on my project unless i can satisfy braking requirements. I am sure his knowledge of modified Land Rovers is 186 holdens and banjo diffs. [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif[/img]

Gaz

Try http://www.web-rover.co.uk/nav.php?p=my

Antony Johnson in Bayswater was importing 90's from the UK and fitting V8s for sale in Vic. He had ADR compliance for the conversions and may be able to help you with specs. (9729-9943).

Originally posted by Gaz69
Hi folks,
Can anyone let me know of a link to the north american defender 90 4.0L rocket? I need the specifications of the vehicle as to brakes, horsepower as in full specs when they where sold to the american market.

I assume this was the most powerful defender sold anywhere. For my next project i need to do a bit of research to keep my engineer happy about power to weight ratio but have had no luck.

Much appreciated if anyone can help me.

Cheers Gaz.

They were tha same specs as the 50th 90's, but came soft top and hard top
We are 3.9 V8 engine (did do some 300 TDi ones) , which they called 4.0. after all the 3.9 is a 3.99999. The engine and figures are the same as a 3.9 Disco or Range Rover. Has a 100 amp alternator sames as them as Land Rover could be arsed to take them off and change them for a smaller one
BHP 182, 232 ft.lbs torque. The cahnge the size in name only. The early ones were 3.9's the later were 4.0 but the figures stayed the same
Brakes (come on we are talking Land Rover here don't changed anything unless thay have to ) Disc all round like the 300 TDi 90 ( but Vented disc, 4 piston calipers on front ). All the running gear is the same as the 300 TDi apart from engine , gearbox props
Were mostly Auto ( ZF manufactured auto.)but some were manual (reason for this is Yanks can't drive real cars)
Had the saftey devices cage . Not for looks but to pass the saftey laws in America. But they make it to look the part
Feul tank is in the rear , same as the TD5 90 (but this was years before the TD5) Again this was due to american law

Really crap on feul as they put too low a transfer box on (came with the LT230 on ), also not as fast as you think they would be. , Goes better and gives better mpg if you put a disco transfer box on. get about 13 mpg as standard

they were started for sale in 1994 and stopped in 1997
94-95 3.9 V8 Manual (LT77 was changed later on in the year to the R380 box)
96-97 4.0 V8 Auto

Hope this helps if you want to know any more than please shout

Thanks guys,
Will reply next week as going to the V8 supercars (Clipsal 500) tomorrow so will be off line for few days. I probally need a PDF file of specs available as in like an original specification sheet put out buy Land rover at the time of their release. Maybe i could email Land rover .

Thanks again guys and i will post again when i get more time.

Oh before i forget

[size=24]<span style="color:red">GO HOLDEN</span>

Gaz

Originally posted by Gaz69
Thanks guys,
Will reply next week as going to the V8 supercars (Clipsal 500) tomorrow so will be off line for few days. I probally need a PDF file of specs available as in like an original specification sheet put out buy Land rover at the time of their release. Maybe i could email Land rover .

Thanks again guys and i will post again when i get more time.

Oh before i forget

[size=24]<span style="color:red">GO HOLDEN</span>

Gaz

Ok what do you want i gave you most of them [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif[/img] . The rest are standard 90 Land Rover specs.
I don't think you will find the orignal specs or if Land Rover would have them still lying around.
But here are some . more bits hope they help

'93 Defender 110 (NAS)
Prototype was built in 1992 and was not given a LRNA number or plate.
536 were built.
US versions were numbered LRNA/1 to LRNA/10 and 1 through 500 of 500. (The first 10 were prototypes).
Canadian versions were numbered 1 through 25 of 25.
All were origional white with a full external roll cage, except one that was painted Black.
CDN=Canadian
All build by LR Special Operations
MSRP: $39,900
Two reportedly destroyed in 1995 Malibu fires.
#13 reported to be in Switzerlasnd (as of 11/97)
2 others are reported to be in Germany (as of 11/97)
Land Rover Hornberg (Los Angeles) reportedly converted two D110s to Black with added luxury features when they were new.
#468 is in Japan (LRO Jan 1997)
#499 reportedly destroyed by driving off cliff ~12/95, later spotted in June 1997 in good shape.
One on Nantucket (unknown LRNA number) Island reported painted Brown. Creed Evens reports that this may be a 1989 D110 that was legally imported.
#100 was rolled (I have seen photographic evidence of this) by 10/98 and was forsale at that time

'94 and '95 Defender 90s (NAS)
Each is supposed to have a number stamped on a plate on the right rear panel between 1 and about 3149. Four were brought in specially with non-standard colors and at least one didn't have it's number stamped on it. Numbers 1 to 10 were marked as LRNA/1 to LRNA/10 (exception #8 was just #8). A few numbers were never issued.
Land Rover North America reports 1,468 sold in 1994, 1,571 sold in 1995 (though about 70 were D90 Station Wagons), giving a total of 2,969.
LRNA imported the following D90s
1994: 1943 US
1994: 87 Canadian
1995: 1191 US
Total: 3221

Standard colors were Portifino Red, Conniston Green, Beluga Black, Alpine White, AA yellow and (1994 only) Arles Blue.
In 1994 there were only 100 Beluga Black models all had leather Seats, A-Bar, Running Boards, rear seat and surrey top as standard features
47 1994 Soft Tops were converted to prototype Station Wagon models. Reportedly at least 37 were Coniston Green, 2 Arles Blue and 1 Alpine White. All 47 have VINs between (and including) RA939334 and RA945393. In January 2002 LRNA stated that there were 65 of these and all were Coniston Green.
1994 MSRP was $27,900 and in 1995 is was $28,650
One 1994 and two or three 1995s are reported to have been imported by LR Hess Rafz, CH and are in Switzerland (as of 11/97)
A number have been bought back by LRNA under lemon laws. A '95 Beluga Black (VIN unknown) has been reported to be one.
LRNA numbers roughly correspond to build order but that is not always true. In the Registry each vehicle is listed in build order.

'95 Defender 90 Station Wagons
510 imported to the US by Land Rover North America. None were imported to Canada
The numbering is a little screwy. When the owner of LRNA/04 first bought the Defender, it had a blank number plate. Then LRNA stamped "LRNA/04" on the blank plate. By #40 they were marked #40/500 and so on to #500. I don't know which D90 Station Wagon was the transition between LRNA/# and #/500. I also don't know if #1 through 3 still have blank plates or not.
Colors: Alpine White, Coniston Green, or Arles Blue with White hard top

MSRP: $32,000 (US)

'97 Defender 90 Automatic Station Wagons and Soft Tops
LRNA intended to import 1000 Station Wagons and 1500 Soft Tops between December 1996 and Sept 1997. First was to be 500 Station Wagons, then the 1500 Soft tops starting in April 1997, and ending with 500 more Station Wagons.
LRNA has published that they imported 1499 Soft Tops and 1000 Station Wagons (not including the Willow Green's below).
Colors: Alpine White, Coniston Green, Beluga Black, AA Yellow, Monza Red, and British Racing Green
It was posted on the the CSO list that the following was the distribution of Station Wagon colors:
341 Green
326 White
209 Blue
102 Red

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One 1997 D90 was sold in Canada.
Five 1997 D90s are reported to have been imported by LR Hess Rafz, CH and are in Switzerland (as of 11/97)
MSRP: Soft Top: $32,000 and Station Wagon: $34,500

'97 Defender 90 Automatic Outfitted Willow Green Station Wagons
LRNA import 300 of these and is claimed that these will be the last D90s. We've heard this line from LRNA before, so who knows if these are really the last. In a 20 October 1997 press release the president of LRNA, Charles R. Hughes, said, '...as current passive restraint regulations prohibit us from selling the vehicle in 1998. We continue to work on a solution but have no definitive plans to announce at this time.'
These are standard Station Wagon models that have a few extras bolted on
Roof Rack with diamond plate on steps
Brush Bar
Diamond Plate Wing (fender) protectors
Diamond Plate rear quarter panel protectors
Diamond Plate on rear and side steps

Here is a some data on various parts serial numbers:


Engine
3.9 Liter V8i-9.35:1. Starts with 29G00001
4.0 Liter V8i-9.35:1. Starts with 50D00001

Gearbox
LT77S Starts with 61A00001
R380 Starts with 61A00001J

Transfer Box (Used on LT77S gearbox)
LT230T Starts with 32D00001
LT230Q Starts with 30D00001

Axles
90 Front. Starts with 64L00001A
Misfire Detection. Starts with 91L00001A

90 Rear. Starts with 42S00001A
Misfire Detection. Starts with 53S00001A

Gearing
Some factoids - 'stock'
Transmission R380-J 1st/ 2nd/ 3rd/ 4th/ 5th/ Rev
3.32 / 2.13 / 1.39 / 1.00/ 0.73 /3.43

Transfer Case LT230 High /Low
1.2 /3.32

gear driven

Axles OEM 3.55
Ratios Crawl: 39.13 Drive: 3.12
Engine 3.9l v8 182HP @ 4750RPM
233FtLbs @ 3100RPM
Wheels 265/75R16 16x7 alloy rims


Vin numbers
1987 - Date (USA)
The USA has slightly different Vehicle Identification Number (VIN) from the world. Digits 1,2,3 are set by the SAE (Society of Automotive Engineers) for each automotive company

Digits
1 Country: S = UK
2 Manufacturer: A = British Leyland/Rover
3 Vehicle Make: L = Land Rover
4 Line (model)
D = 90 & 110
H = Range Rover Classic
J = Discovery
N = Freelander
P = Range Rover (mk2)
T = Discovery, Series II

5 Series (Emissions and wheelbase)
C = LWB (108") Range Rover Classic--must be a 49 State Emmissions
E = 50 State Emisssions: NAS Range Rover, mkII (100")
H = NAS 110"
N = 50 State Emissions: NAS Discovery (100")
V = 49 State Emissions: NAS 90" or NAS Range Rover, mkII (100")

50 State Emission for NAS Range Rover Classic (100" & 108") X = 50 State Emissions (California): NAS 90"
Y = 49 State Emissions: NAS Discovery (100") & Freelander

6 Body Type
1 = closed (hard top), 5 door
2 = open (soft top), 2 door. NAS D90s & Freelander
3 = closed (hardtop), 3 door. NAS D90 Station Wagon

7 Engine Type
1 = 3.5 L V8
2 = 3.9 L V8 and 4.0 L V8 (OBD II) or Freelander V6
3 = 4.2 L V8 (LWB Range Rover Classic
4 = 4.6 L V8

8 Steering/transmission and Gross Vehicle Weight class)
2 = Freelander automatic
3 = Canadian D110 and 6000 lb GVW
4 = LHD 4 speed automatic and 6000 lb GVW
8 = LHD 5 speed manual and 6000 lb GVW

9 Checksum for the other 16 digits
May be any digit from 0 to 9 or X.

A numberic value is assigned to each letter in the VIN
A,J
B,K,S
C,L,T
D,M,U
E,N,V
F,W
G,P,X
H,Y
R,Z
Each position of the VIN is given a weight factor
1=8, 2=7, ... , 7=2, 8=10, 10=9, ... , 17=2
Multiply each digit by it's weight factor and sum for positions 1 to 8 and 10 to 17.
Divided by 11 and find the remainder. The remainder is the 9th digit (with and X being used if the remainder is 10)


For the 3.9 and 4.0 see below



Specs



This the details for the Nas 110 but not the 90 spome are the same