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    Re: next to no brakes

    Originally posted by rocket

    NOTE: If it is a 109 make sure that you have a 1 inch bore Master Cylinder as the SWB uses a 3/4 inch bore and does not move suffient fluid to give brake shoe pressure. 8O I am aware of at least 1 fatality as a result of incorrect M/cyl diameter
    Glad you remembered that rocket. [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif[/img] Thinking about it that would cause similar symptoms to those described if the wrong cylinder was used.

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    Re: next to no brakes

    Originally posted by rocket
    G'day Phil [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif[/img]
    I will take a punt that this is a 109 GS :?: Fitted with the CB Master Cylinder (steel with the large nut at the rearend 1" bore) and you followed the instructions in one of the workshop manuals that stated ; back off the adjustment before bleeding the brakes, :wink: Try this :wink: Adjust up all wheels until locked THEN Bleed the brakes :wink: sequence is LEFT Front, RIGHT Front, LEFT Rear, and RIGHT Rear, If you suspect air in the M/cylinder bleed it FIRST by slightly opening the outlet pipe (rear pipe on M/cyl closest firewall) while somebody is SLOWLY pressing the brake pedal, close off before pedal hits the floor, this gets the air that is trapped in the spring recess in the nut [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif[/img]
    hope this is of some help [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif[/img]

    NOTE: If it is a 109 make sure that you have a 1 inch bore Master Cylinder as the SWB uses a 3/4 inch bore and does not move suffient fluid to give brake shoe pressure. 8O I am aware of at least 1 fatality as a result of incorrect M/cyl diameter :wink:
    cheers
    Rocket [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif[/img]


    hey rocket...this all makes good sense...but....
    shouldnt the brakes furthest from the master cylinder be bled first?
    in order from furthest to closest?
    what im asking is... arent the back brakes further from the master cylinder than the front ones are?

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    in theory the longest pipe should be bled first, then the next longest etc etc.
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    <span style="color:green">thats my point...but i am unfamiliar with early landys....

    i would have thought the furthest would be one of the rear brakes....</span>

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    it is [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tongue.gif[/img]

    it was probably late and the old fella was tired and couldnt put to paper what his mind was saying to him ....or he was full o' scotch or he was wrong [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tongue.gif[/img]
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