Thread: Faulty TD5 Oil Pump Bolt - Update

Guy's,
I am quite confident on doing the job myself, how would you tell if it has actually been loctited or not? Or is it just a matter of pulling it off and loctiting it to make sure and re installing it. Will be ordering the sump gasket this week.
Mick, I feel really sorry for you but I believe that LR are just being a bunch of ******. I would be fairly reluctant to buy another LR now. It would be far easier for them to just replace it.

Guy's, maybe we could do some sort of fundraising through the forum to help get Mick back on the road until this can be sorted with LR??
I am happy to kick in a few dollars and when Mick wins and gets re imbursed maybe the funds could be donated to a childrens hospital or something.
Just an idea, would probably need about 1000 members to kick in $15 ea. Even 500 members @ $10 still kicks in $5k to get it under way.
I am keen.

Mick keep your chin up buddy

LAND ROVER AUSTRALIA take note, we know you read this forum and are keeping tabs on this thread. If you continue to treat your customers like this LR will have an even more limited future in Australia, we can and will through this forum and others effect your sales world wide, so be warned.
LRs current reputation in Australia is on the slide as it is, you should be seeking to make it better not worse. I am now on my 3rd Land Rover with 2 being purchased through our local dealership, at present there will not be a 3rd that was planned for the next 18 months and at present I can not recommend anyone buy a LR and I have demonstrated and recommended LR to many many people over the last 8 years. I know of at least 15 sales directly attributed to my reccomendations and possibly up to 20 more.
Nissan is looking better and better at least they replace their motors when they go bang through a known fault even out of warranty, without stressing and ruining peoples lives.
Thats my piece and I hope the arrogant ****** from LR Australia read this.

Originally posted by CraigE
I am now on my 3rd Land Rover with 2 being purchased through our local dealership, at present there will not be a 3rd that was planned for the next 18 months and at present I can not recommend anyone buy a LR .....

I'm on my 4th LR (previously '83 and '86 Rangies), the current 1995 P38A Rangie, and a 1984 110 County.

After the failure of the P38A engine at 175,000km (having been limping along with slipped liners since 115,000km unbeknownst to me), I thought I'd never buy another Land Rover. In fact, when we bought the Forester for my wife, we had been seriously considering a Td5 Disco 2 for her. She really liked driving the D2.

I'm still not sure with what I'm going to replace the Range. I had been considering selling it and the County to buy a Defender. Now I'm not so sure. When I look at how well Nissan have supported the 3.0 diesel Patrol owners vs LR's support for P38A owners with stuffed V8 engines, the answer is pretty obvious.

Ron

Hang in there Mick.

If you're happy to accept donations to fight your case, send me a PM with your postal address and I'll send you a cheque. This sort of thing really ****es me off!

Landrover needs to understand that the most effective marketing is word of mouth. LR doesn't have a very good reputation in the world and cases like yours are just going to make it worse. Everyday I have people coming up to me and asking me what the new D3 is like. And each and every one of them wants to know if it's broken down on me yet!.

I said it before and I'll say it again; whether the car has a fault or not is not the point (no car is fault proof). LR needs to grow up, accept fault and cough up.

Don't worry about anything you write on this forum, unless it's defamatory. Keep up the pressure from all angles.

Yep keep the pressure up. We had a local car stereo place who treated their customers like this after they made the sale. Took 6 months from when we had a run in with them for them to go under. Found out that many people were not happy. I know that we ruined at least 5 sales the day we had a fight with them as we scared them out of the shop. I they are being unreasonable never step into the office but rant and rave in full view of as many customers as possible.
My father in law rang the cops over the local merc dealer due to their incompetence and then refusal to release the car unless he paid. He went right off in the show room and gave them 5 minutes to undo everything they had done and return it or he would report it stolen. 5 mins later while still arguing he rang the cops and did exactly what he threttened. lets the othr customers know what they are in for if they buy the product.

I am going to take off the sump today & have a look, I have to drive from Canberra to Adelaide on friday. I am not waiting for a dealer or a sump gasket to take it off, I see what the gasket is like before I put it back.

What is the torgue for the sump Bolts? dont have a manual yet.
Is there a diagram of the bolt tighening sequence? Can someone post it.

What would you do if the bolt is tight? do you undo, clean & apply lockitite or just leave it?

This is my 4th landrover - but no more.
Bought a 69 -2a in 1974 had it for 4 years, 72 RR for 10 years, then a 86RR for 10 years, now had the TD5 for 2 years.

the 72rr was the best, thought the 86 was bad for build quality, but the TD5 ****es me off - with its oil in the loom, oil pump bolt, & ABS, HDC & TC lights all coming on at once. F**k, all you do is worry about what next !!!!

anyway its off to buy some locktite.

Mick - happy to donate some $ to help, please PM your address.

regards

Steve

Notice something here?

1151 views of this post so far.

Donations and help...

Think you've really started a movement here, Mick, if you get my drift (and I'm sure you do)...

Keep going, obviously there are A LOT of individuals interested in your issue.

Cheers, GQ

Originally posted by Quiggers
Notice something here?

1151 views of this post so far.

Donations and help...

Think you've really started a movement here, Mick, if you get my drift (and I'm sure you do)...

Keep going, obviously there are A LOT of individuals interested in your issue.

Cheers, GQ

Yes, there sure are a lot of people getting to know what Land Rover do in situations like this.

The power of advertising is strong and one guy I worked for knew the power of word of mouth over paid advertising - still listening Land Rover marketing section? I wonder if they wish to comment and tell their side of the issue? I am sure we all would like to know their side. :?:

Guys

I am absolutely blown away by the responses that have been posted on this thread. None more so than the offers of financial assistance. Reminds me that we do live in the greatest country on Earth, populated by the greatest people. Thanks very very much.

Although the offers are very generous, and I thank you very much for them, I would be even happier that if you have some spare dosh, donate it to a worthy charity - something like the Starlight Foundation. I have no affiliation or connection with that organisation, but pulled this off their web site -

"In the next 12 months, 600,000 children will be hospitalised in Australia. Currently, Starlight's programs touch the lives of 200,000 seriously ill children and their families, providing much needed positive distraction. Many more children are in need of some Starlight magic. As Starlight receives no government funding, meeting this growing demand presents a major challenge.

Currently, 518* children with a critical, chronic or terminal illness are waiting for their Starlight wish, and 131* Starlight Fun Centres must be funded, before they can provide much-needed positive distraction to hospitalised children around Australia."

Like I've said before, whenever I think I've got it tough, go for a stroll through the wards of a childrens' hospital.

Once again thanks guys.