Thread: Faulty TD5 Oil Pump Bolt - Update

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>Well, the verdict is in. Land Rover Customer Care (now that's an oxymoron) Australia, are only going to pay for 50% of a new motor, leaving me to come up with the balance of about $9000, or pay for a 2nd hand motor at $4500 and me having to pay labour of about $3000[/b][/quote]

Early part of the post.
When the second hand motor was offered.
Having said that, I would have taken the motor and fitted it myself or paid the fitting charge and fought it later.

Originally posted by Quiggers
boeing is still in hot water over looms inside fuel tanks more than thirty years after they supplied said aircraft.

Apples and Oranges here! Aircraft exploding gets messy (deaths etc... are guaranteed) LR engines dying (although exceptions exist) are rarely fatal and in this instance not a guaranteed occurance, nor likely to cause injury or death. For a more topical subject see "Explorer + Firestone" that ones going to go a while!

Originally posted by Quiggers
it was an LR prob

So are failing DC joints, snapping axles etc.... When should LR stop paying for them?

VL Commodores cracked heads often, does Holden replace them foc?

LR knows theres a fault but its not measureable... How many failures have you actually heard of? 100? 100 from how many? 100 from 10000 ia only 1% of all TD5 sold.... Theres a recognisable rate they have to allow.

Hopefully LR will show some compassion however and replace his engine gratis? Perhaps a new engine + a fitting charge? Thats more than fair for a new donk!


<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>(Can I have a proper spare for a ML 320?)[/b][/quote]

Its only a softroader! How could this seriously be considered a 4wd vehicle, let alone compared to a RRS 8)

Cheers
Mike

My opinion, warranties are not worth the paper there not written on.

Is this the same motor used by the ADF/SAS in the LR Perentie and derivatives, Mick?

standing by for your imminent reply....



GQ

Originally posted by CraigE
If you are happy with an injector harness failure after 5 1/2 years that is fine, but I would not be as it is a known and common problem.

Look under the bonnet of any 2-3 yr old car and you'll see the looms degraded from heat.

The loom is inside the rocker cover, so Heat + Oil will degrade that harness regardless of age or otherwise. Its an inevitable occurance.

5+ years till incident is fine IMHO I mean its had new brake rotors/pads, new springs etc.... new shocks.....

And bearings repacked, why? They needed it/were worn out through use.

The bolt issue is different....

Less than 100 reports of it happening from my research (so far) equates to less than 0.25% failure rate for the TD5 engines oil pump bolt.

Now if your unfortunate to be the 0.25% then that plain out sucks arse :?
But the cost (millions) to check all the TD5s for a single bolt is just not going to happen, basic economics.


As for not buying another LR, your call. But why punish yourself for something like this :wink:

Oh and on warranty, I extended mine past its 3 yr through Landrover.

The D3 has 3yr/100,000.... A new RRS has 5yr/160,000km

cheers
Mike
(Devils advocate)

Originally posted by Quiggers
Is this the same motor used by the ADF/SAS in the LR Perentie and derivatives, Mick?

standing by for your imminent reply....GQ

Me :?:

To the best of my knowledge the Perenties etc are Isuzu powered.
However, the new LR110 derivatives are delivered with a TD5 engine, yes.

Several TD5s were in Timor.

Cheers
Mike

Originally posted by CraigE
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>Well, the verdict is in. Land Rover Customer Care (now that's an oxymoron) Australia, are only going to pay for 50% of a new motor, leaving me to come up with the balance of about $9000, or pay for a 2nd hand motor at $4500 and me having to pay labour of about $3000

Early part of the post.
When the second hand motor was offered.
Having said that, I would have taken the motor and fitted it myself or paid the fitting charge and fought it later.[/b][/quote]
have another look at the posts from the front page, all of them...

This is becoming a three act play, don't you think, Ron?

However, given the nature of the issue, as MD of LRA, I would have sorted Micks dramas and would have had a customer for life, and with 1300 people watching here to date, probably many more customers if handled correctly, this has been a PR disaster for LR. despite the advancing years of Micks motor..

It's only just gone 7 years, even Hyundai offer and have offered from around ten years ago 5 or 6 years warranties, i seem to recall. So if Mick had a Hyundai he'd only be, just past warranty.

But as I mentioned earlier - caveat emptor.

cheers GQ