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    The current draft is available

    The mass of highly lifted giant tyred possers that hover around the Gold Coast and Sunshine coast that has created the clampdown on all vehicles, not just 4WD's.

    QCOP draft is being reviewed https://www.4wdqld.com.au/wp-content...rafts-2018.pdf

    The ESC issue popped up due to this.
    NCOP is the national standards and each state may do what they want but not be stricter than those guidelines. https://www.tmr.qld.gov.au/-/media/S...ring.pdf?la=en

    This is the "swerve" control test done under international standards
    The Australia Automotive Aftermarket Association (AAAA) have been involved to try and get ESC care to be self-certifying at 50mm
    AAAA Vehicle Dynamics Testing leads to change in NCOP - Australian Automotive Aftermarket Association

    Testing has been done by some aftermarket companies, interesting times.

    In general, most 50 mm lifts are not 50 mm, ARB 200 series is 40 mm I have been told that some are more like 30mm but they look more due to suspension sag and the aftermarket hold up better when loaded.

    As for my D4, I do have one size up tyres which is permissible under NCOP's and in QLD depending on where you travel. I live in FNQ so getting replacements for 19" can be a major issue, whereas 20" rims and 275/55 are more common and easier to get. They are one size up from the plated 255/55/20R.

    But if you have a vehicle check Road Vehicle Descriptor Online for any suspension heights


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    It was bound to happen. I doubt they would even pull.over live axle vehicles with modest lift and modest increase in tyre size. Next to a lot of beefed up Rangers and similiar my D2 for example looks positively tame. Just the way I like it.

    Cheers

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    QLD, ESC Landie? Stock tyres only....baby

    Apparently this is the check list QPS are using.

    Looks pretty straight forward and easy for them to apply.
    Last edited by weeds; 13th September 2018 at 07:07 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tony V View Post
    As for my D4, I do have one size up tyres which is permissible under NCOP's and in QLD depending on where you travel. I live in FNQ so getting replacements for 19" can be a major issue, whereas 20" rims and 275/55 are more common and easier to get. They are one size up from the plated 255/55/20R.
    Check your plate, I think the standard size for a D4 is 255 50 20. The D5 and RRS L494 are 255 55 20.
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    Thumbs down

    Thanks, Weeds,

    You are correct 255/50R20

    I did try to find LT A/T sized at
    255/50R20
    255/55R20
    265/50R20

    265/55R20

    then went to

    275/55/20 with a BF Goodrich T/A K02

    As a matter of interest, I did ask a tester at the TMR office if this was ok,
    he did say it was accepted practice for locals who travel in the FNQ to go to the next size up for AT tyres.
    Naturally, this was not written down.

    The size difference is 48mm in OD or 6.3% (31.9 inches)
    And best of all side wall is 20% (1") more


    Tyre size.jpg


    Tony

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    Cheat sheet doesnt say mod plate required for tyre increase for ESC vehicles. Is silent on tyre increase by itself. Cheers

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    Checklist the QPS have been given


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    There also seems to be a lot of chatter and rumours about Qld Transport to possibly ban GVM upgrades on any 4WD that is not classed as a commercial vehicle.

    Seems the Tojo LC200 forum fans are not impressed
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    Quote Originally Posted by scarry View Post
    There also seems to be a lot of chatter and rumours about Qld Transport to possibly ban GVM upgrades on any 4WD that is not classed as a commercial vehicle.

    Seems the Tojo LC200 forum fans are not impressed

    That one's gonna hurt!
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    Quote Originally Posted by scarry View Post
    There also seems to be a lot of chatter and rumours about Qld Transport to possibly ban GVM upgrades on any 4WD that is not classed as a commercial vehicle.

    Seems the Tojo LC200 forum fans are not impressed
    Buggered if I can find the link, I read they are still considering manufacturer GVM upgrades which can only be done /arranged when car is first sold

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