ARB Bar Discovery II

I agree with Tombraider, considering the forces involved in a snatch recovery I just don't think I like the idea of snatching off the axle on the car.

Before the forum was updated, there was a section where you could buy recovery gear (snatch straps mainly, Emporium?). Does that section still exist, I cant find it? There was some talk of adding D2 recovery points, (cant remember the supplier, something like 4wd design??), they were steel plate, about 20mm thick, with a hole for recovery and 2 more to bolt it to the chasis rail (where the steering damper bolts on if I remember corectly). Any news on those or a details of the supplier or links to the original post?

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Originally Posted by tombraider

Imagine a slip and grip situation with an ARB D2 and winch...

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Slip and grip? I would have thought that if you are winching then the cable will always be under tension.

I have always thought / been informed that you should never drive while winching to avoid that very situation. Winches and winch cables are not designed for shock loads.

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Originally Posted by BigJon

Slip and grip? I would have thought that if you are winching then the cable will always be under tension.

I have always thought / been informed that you should never drive while winching to avoid that very situation. Winches and winch cables are not designed for shock loads.

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You are correct........in theory! :D

But living in Alice Springs you have probably never winched in Melbourne mud. While the aim is to always have tension on the winch it does not always work out that way.

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Originally Posted by BigJon

Slip and grip? I would have thought that if you are winching then the cable will always be under tension.

I have always thought / been informed that you should never drive while winching to avoid that very situation. Winches and winch cables are not designed for shock loads.

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In most competitions I have been in, you winch and drive assist all the time. Time means points. As someone has said, in deep mud your winch can be on & off load within seconds. I have seen an air bag go off with a car tobogoning down a steep slope and driving the bull bar into the ground at the bottom. There is no difference in pulling of recovery points on a bull bar, or off the chassis behind it. If it were possible (which I doubt) you would stretch the crush can with that much forward force??. There is no air bag trigger mechanism directly conected to the bullbar.

Regards Justin

G'day Big Jon,

A good strong, easy, solution to recovery points on a DII with an ARD Bar is this:

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/im...2008/12/39.jpg

They are recovery points made by 4x4Design engineering in Melbourne. They are Really strong, easy to install ( they bolt through the original Chassis Holes - and they supply longer High Tensile bolts for you!)

They are available through here:

http://www.4x4discovery.com.au/

They also have lots of other useful toys for DII owners..

Cheers Mark

I made a set similar to those in the pic for BlackBetty from 12mm plate,plenty strong enough.
Andrew

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Originally Posted by LandyAndy

I made a set similar to those in the pic for BlackBetty from 12mm plate,plenty strong enough.
Andrew

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Yeh these are about 10 - 12 mm plate..

For those like me with no manufacturing skill... these were perfect... cost me about $100 for a pair( including replacement bolts and nuts) and took about half an hour to fit.... no way these will bend or break.

There is only down side - the way an ARB Bar sticks out.... they are a fair way in under the vehicle....which can suck badly if stuck in mud..:mad:

Morale of the story....... DONT GET STUCK:angel:

Mark

I'd like to resurrect this old, but interesting thread please.....

I had the ARB deluxe bullbar (non winch) fitted to my 99 D2 recently. Now I have just realised that the workshop didn't refit my factory recovery point (the black bracket with the teardrop shaped eye).

Some questions arise from this, (and not just around why have I only just realised they didnt refit it several weeks after the event!).

1) Can they refit it? i.e. is it possible to refit it with this bar fitted? Before I march back in there and demand they do it I want to be sure it is actually possible - to my untrained eye it doesnt look like it will fit anywhere now.
2) Is it possible to recover (snatching only I am talking about) using this ARB bull bar at all?
3) Should I simply upgrade to the 4x4discovery recovery points (and how much are they does anyone know?).

Thanks!
Chazb.

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Originally Posted by Chazb

I'd like to resurrect this old, but interesting thread please.....

I had the ARB deluxe bullbar (non winch) fitted to my 99 D2 recently. Now I have just realised that the workshop didn't refit my factory recovery point (the black bracket with the teardrop shaped eye).

Some questions arise from this, (and not just around why have I only just realised they didnt refit it several weeks after the event!).

1) Can they refit it? i.e. is it possible to refit it with this bar fitted? Before I march back in there and demand they do it I want to be sure it is actually possible - to my untrained eye it doesnt look like it will fit anywhere now.
2) Is it possible to recover (snatching only I am talking about) using this ARB bull bar at all?
3) Should I simply upgrade to the 4x4discovery recovery points (and how much are they does anyone know?).

Thanks!
Chazb.

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In order....

1/ Yes, with some shoving, but its a tow point and not suited for recovery of any sort so why bother.
2/ Gently, but they arent rated for snatch only winching and I would recommend a bridle of some type between eyes.
3/ Some form of recovery point would be good... I'd go the Bruce Davis Point, its stronger and better off axis