Thread: Cones or Clamps?

Mt understanding of the law re swaybars is that if a model was offered without the feature anywhere in the world, then it is OK. For my 92 Range Rover there was (at least) a model sold in the USA without sway bars. "The Hunter" . Also in UK they had a commercial model, but I have not been able to determine whether they had sway bars or not.
I would think that there were also Disco 1 models without sway bars, even after they became standard in Australia.
In effect Australian cars were "optioned up" with sway bars.

That is why you can convert a Classic with air bags to springs legally. And why you need an engineers report for a 38A, as no model came with springs. Its also why there are no OZ kits for 38A as it would cost too much for type approval for the vendor and no one would buy them without type approval if they had to get an Engineers report. ( told to me by Graeme Cooper)
Regards Philip A

Originally Posted by Diff

That would be great!!

Take a look here - real simple design :

BTW If anyone has already done this here if they could indicate where they got the bits from that would be great.

http://discoweb.org/forums/showthrea...highlight=sway

Originally Posted by Diff

Is that noisy compared to the rest of the noise from the mudders clawing away or the rocks bouncing and thuddings underneith ,Oh and the TDI rmp's that there normally is? If I clamp won't I loose the 100mm drop I just gained?

Yes. Anyone nearby who doesn't know will be yelling broken diff, broken axle, broken something...

Sounds as though you've got a non-standard setup. The springs shouldn't pop out 3 times in one day. You may alrerady have longer shocks.

Regards
Max P

No pretty standard compared to most.
2' raised king spring and cross country foam filled shocks which were about 20mm longer than the originals, but still their replacement for RR/Disco and 245/75/16 maxxis mudders and a camel cut that wasn't really enough.

I was surprised that they cam out with only the way bar removed. Did the older range rover without sway bary and early discos have the springs clamped in from standard?

Originally Posted by Diff

No pretty standard compared to most.
2' raised king spring <snip>

there's your culprit. Kings springs are a much heavier rate than standard, so are actually a shorter spring at free length or unloaded height vs the OE spring.

Originally Posted by byron

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Anti-sway bars really only offer initial resistance to lean/sway/wheel movement initially - they DON'T actually prevent much subsequent/ultimate movement of the wheel travel (up and down)......

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sorry, but that's totally incorrect. An anti-roll bar is a transverse torsion bar, the more you twist, the harder they are to twist, so the more one wheel moves in relation to it's opposite (or the more the body rolls) the more it resists that motion.
On the other hand, a shock absorber with a lot of low speed bump, rebound or both will initially resist movement then bleed down and allow full suspension movement.

SO now I will have to start another thread as to what springs to install. The Kings are nearing 2 years old and have sunk about 1' and a definately not as firm as the were.

The springs will have to be able to take the touring weight of the family. I was thinking of getting polly bags as well as the camper traile dropped the **** a bit.

Originally Posted by byron

I didn't mean quick disconnection kits ........they've gotta be ok and legal if they're connected whilst "on road" ......I was referring to taking them [sway bars] off and throwing them out altogether.

Sorry I wasn't implying that,, I was just trying to suggest it as an option instead of removal.......

The 93 4 door V8 disco we ju7st brought has all the brackets where they belong... but are not there
Was there models that came here with out them fitted ????

I will look for the pics of my set up tonight & post them up when I find them