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    Angry Do I Or Dont I..should I Or Shouldnt I.

    Ok guys use all gave me critisism over the 179 engine in me rover now i cant aford a TDI or a 2.25 deisel .but now i want all the advise or opinions on wether i should buy the original 6cyl out of it whitch the bloke i brought the rover off has offered it to me for $100 but i know nothing about the rover 6s ,fuel consumpion ,power do they rev well...or should i go for a 2.25 whitch i have delt with in the past only in the LWB but thats what it will be going in LWB S3 ..Or do i just stick with the 179 holden & may be put the fuel injection off a 202 on it witch i have been offered for free.& has any one ever blown up the salsbry diff or is it just the axels that brake..also i am after a real cheap RR front diff disc to disc no axels or center for the swivel hubs as i am going to do what i did on my last one & cut the flange off & weld to my diff for the disc brakes again..i will be useing the original axels & CVs not the RR ones..

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    Hang on, who gave you greif over the 179?? i've got a 173 that is great, my only problem is that as i'm restoring it i'd rather the landy 6. If you can get the land rover 6 for $100, grab it, i've been quoted 10 times that for one in good condition (yup, $1000). Hell, i'll take it at $200 if it weren't for having to get it down here.

    Basically, the landy 6 isn't much more powerfull than the 2.25 litre 4 cylinder, and is about as thirsty as the v8 and is a little prone to burning valves, so need to be adjusted regularly.

    Oh, and another thing to make the red run better, get the coil and dizzy from a blue motor with the built in electronic ignitiojn, works fantastically and is a drop in fit. no fiddleing. mine came with a 12v coil, so you may need to remove a ballast resistor to allow 12v to get to the coil, as most holden ones are 6v
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    I think the story goes that the landrover 6 was a bit of a lemon
    I think you would be better off with the holden, maybe even a later model one, anything up to 1986 should fit.
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    the much maligned rover 6 is a nice motor IMHO and much better offroad than any holden motor will ever be BUT it is an F head so you need to "regularly" do your valve clearance settings.

    i had one, found it to be an excellent unit. I have also had a 186 and it was excellent on the road but a pig off the road compared to the rover lump as you had to rev it to move it and that isnt what you need most of the time.

    it comes back to how you intend using the vehicle and what bucks you have to throw at it...
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    I can't compare with a 4 or a Holden motor, but the 6 compared with the Rover 8 in a Series 3 gives nice low-down torque and is short on power. On paper it revs a little higher than the 4, and pulls from a little lower. All the BS about fuel economy in the 6 being as bad as the 8 is by people who haven't had to live with just how bad the 8 really is!

    Going from a 6 to a 4 requires a change of gearbox AFAIK as the bolt pattern on the bellhousing is different.

    I'd take the $100 motor and wrap it up nicely - cheap insurance and might clinch a later sale.

    What do you have the car for? If it's to drive, then drive it with what it has. If it's a project, take it back to original.

    I think the 6 was outdated and unpopular, but I have to say that driving one is better than I thought it might be. I'd be better feedback for you if I'd owned it longer, though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by banjo View Post
    i will be useing the original axels & CVs not the RR ones..
    Does this work? As you would know, the front of a Series LR doesn't have CV's as such. Do the axel housings swap between RR's and Series LRs, other than suspension attachments?
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    My brother in laws' father has had two Series with Holden motors, he's an ancient beach fisho, and has done the conversion from the LR donk to the old Holdie motor, a couple of times. AFAIK, the Holdie (a 202 in his current Series) works well for the beach.

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    the red motor is good on the beach because they are much lighter...
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    My old series had a 186 and it was a great improvment over the 2.25 BUT there were the reving issues which managed to break a few axels and burned out a clutch but probably more my 18yo driving style more than anything.

    I would stay away from the old blue 202 injection, it wasnt much good then and wouldnt be now, a well tuned Holley would be much more efficient and easier to set up.

    Sorry cant help you with the anything about the Rover 6, I dont think I have ever set eye's on 1.

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    The rover 2.6 is a dog. Goes like a 2.25, drinks like a V8. IF you strip half the engine apart and reset the evhaust valves every service, then it can be ok, but who can be bothered? It DOES have more torque and pulls better than a 2.25, but not by a long way.

    The holden motor is less than ideal, but not too bad. If it is a good conversion that has devent cooling and decent gearing, then it is OK. The standard stromberg hates hills, so needs to be replaced with something else (e.g. a 2.6 Stromberg CD carby is a good option).

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