Thread: Hey look you can change range on the fly....

Originally Posted by rangieman

Maybe we should run a poll on this on who shifts on the fly , and who has damaged a t/c during this so called reverse lottery
It would be interesting to see how many people do shift on the fly with a manual trans compared to who doesnt

I've shifted low-high quite a bit (different thing entirely high-low of course) when towing/ heavy load/steep hill. As per the instruction manual I'd never used a non-synchro box before the LT95 transfer - no problems, no bits of metal where they shouldn't be.

Originally Posted by scrambler

I've shifted low-high quite a bit (different thing entirely high-low of course) when towing/ heavy load/steep hill. As per the instruction manual I'd never used a non-synchro box before the LT95 transfer - no problems, no bits of metal where they shouldn't be.

I meant from low to high

Originally Posted by rovercare

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I must admit, LT230's are definately harder to get right, the cruddy shift mechanism, removes feel and loses finesse, but the LT95's are the ultimate in on the fly shifting, direct operated gearstick

yep, the small dog size doesn't help, either.
The old Dana 20 in my Jeep was heaps easier, and it used sliding gears, not constant mesh.

Dear old Dad taught me to be able to change on the fly, so I could drive any gearbox with or without the clutch if need be.
When the fork went three months ago I drove the 'fender without a clutch for a week and a half while I organised the bits. No problems, just a pain when stopping and starting.

How do you blokes think people change gears in crash boxes ? Like Brian said, Road Rangers are still a non-synchro box. Most all race car gearboxes are face dog non-synchro boxes.

You have to really set out to wreck it, have a linkage fail so you select two ratios or have no mechanical sympathy whatsoever to do the damage Dave has shown in those photos, a little bit of a missed gear won't do it.

Originally Posted by rick130

yep, the small dog size doesn't help, either.
The old Dana 20 in my Jeep was heaps easier, and it used sliding gears, not constant mesh.

Dear old Dad taught me to do this, so I could drive any gearbox or without the clutch if need be.
When the fork went three months ago I drove the 'fender without a clutch for a week and a half while I organised the bits.

How do you blokes think people change gears in crash boxes ? Like Brian said, Road Rangers are still a non-synchro box. Most all race car gearboxes are face dog non-synchro boxes.

You have to really set out to wreck it, have a linkage fail so you select two ratios or have no mechanical sympathy whatsoever to do the damage Dave has shown in those photos, a little bit of a missed gear won't do it.

Ahhh, something that most can't manage, I drove another rangie I had back from phillip island to home with no clutch, 6.2 chev oiler and LT77, start the bugger up, shift first at idle and pop it into low range, head up the gears, shift high range and up the gears again

Couldn't start in gear, because the starter had broken a bolt and couldn't handle any load.........was a bad weekend, missus EB cracked a radiator tank, borrowed the rangie, starter bolt snapped AND slave croaked while down their, and I had to pick the ****er up

Originally Posted by rick130

yep, the small dog size doesn't help, either.
The old Dana 20 in my Jeep was heaps easier, and it used sliding gears, not constant mesh.

Dear old Dad taught me to be able to change on the fly, so I could drive any gearbox or without the clutch if need be.
When the fork went three months ago I drove the 'fender without a clutch for a week and a half while I organised the bits.

How do you blokes think people change gears in crash boxes ? Like Brian said, Road Rangers are still a non-synchro box. Most all race car gearboxes are face dog non-synchro boxes.

You have to really set out to wreck it, have a linkage fail so you select two ratios or have no mechanical sympathy whatsoever to do the damage Dave has shown in those photos, a little bit of a missed gear won't do it.

What you say is correct but dont forget it is easier to change gears in a non synchro g/box with out the clutch , than what it is with a synchro g/box

I had that experience (changing gears no clutch synchro box) a coupla weeks back. I don't wanna talk about it But I got home so all's well that ends well.

Originally Posted by rick130

Most all race car gearboxes are face dog non-synchro boxes.

And motorcycle gearboxes too, come to that.

Originally Posted by rangieman

What you say is correct but dont forget it is easier to change gears in a non synchro g/box with out the clutch , than what it is with a synchro g/box

God, isn't that the truth.