Thread: Replacement fuel pumps research

OK they are in my gallery.
I took them mainly to send to the Walbro pump guy in the US, so he could identify a Walbro pump, so sorry that I don't show the sock and fixing arrangement.
The top fixing is by a right angle bracket with a hole , which goes onto a grommet around the outlet pipe, just above the picture!LOL
I bought this pump off I think an AULRO member on ebay. He lives in Cairns and converted a V8 to a TD5.
I cannot remember his name, so please do not be offended if you read this.
Regards Philip A

This is the ebay one, a Chinese cheapie but looks like it fits.
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/VN-VP-VR-VS-F...QQcmdZViewItem
Regards Philip A

I think I posted this about 6 months back...when I was having fuel 'issues'...

got a pump out of a VN from the local wrecker for $50,

been in there for six months, no dramas...

easy job to do, too!

GQ

yes phill i would be interested thanx mate

Thanks Philip - you've obviously done quite a bit of research on this. Good work! Have you, perchance, found the pressure and flow rate specs for the original pump for the 3.9Lt V8 version in Discovery (and the P38 Rangie for that matter)? The eBay pump for the Commodore from "performanceworld1" looks like a good unit to carry as a spare even if it's not going to stand up in the long term.

Have you, perchance, found the pressure and flow rate specs for the original pump for the 3.9Lt V8 version in Discovery (and the P38 Rangie for that matter)?

No but I am 99% sure that they are the same as the Commodore pump. I know the pressure is the same as the operating pressures are the same. In fact the Commodore regulator is just a mirror of the 3.9 regulator.
Early 38A is virtually the same pump.
However be careful as Bosch 38A and D2 have the regulator in the tank, and 3Bar operating pressure. I noticed an assembly on Ebay for $1300+.!!!!
Regards Philip A

OK here are the pictures.
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Regards Philip A

Thanks for the pointer to eBay, Philip A - I have purchased one of the commodore fuel pumps as a spare to take on trips - just in case. The pump arrived promptly via Express Post on Friday and it appears to be a direct drop-in replacement for the LandRover pump.

The package contains the pump itself, as well as the filter sock, wiring harness (pump connector to bare ends 150mm long), a rubber sleeve which I assume is a silencer to slide over the pump body, a pair of small hose clamps and a moulded rubber seal which would be used in a commodore.

I have photographed the Borgg pump (right or lower) alongside the LandRover unit (left or upper) which I removed from my tank about 18months ago after it failed and it looks almost identical. Certainly the Discovery specific parts, the rubber moulding which sits between the end of the pump and the base of the carrier and the fuel hose fit fine.

From the seller's website the pump is sold as a Borgg pump "E F P 033" spec'd as follows:

SPECS:
APPLICATION PRESSURE: 350 kpa
MAX RELIEF PRESSURE : 750 kpa
FLOW RATE : 22.0 GRAM/SEC
FUEL: PETROL
DESCRIPTION: ELECTRIC FUEL PUMP
VEHICLE APPLICATION:INTANK ( ONLY SINGLE PUMP SYSTEM HOLDEN VN-VS 6 & 8 CYL )
DIAMETER: 43.5
HEIGHT : 130.6
INLET OUTER DIAMETER : 19.08 mm
INLET TYPE : BEAD END
OUTLET OUTER DIAMETER: 7.95 mm
VOLTAGE : 12V

The seller is "performanceworld1" and the buy now price was $55 plus $7 postage. It is listed as having a one year warranty, and the price is listed as a 2 week special but looking through the seller's feedback, this may be a marketing strategy as all previous purchases I found were at the same price. Nonetheless his service was extremely prompt and he kept me well informed of my order's progress via email.

My choice for replacing the pump back 18 months ago was to purchase a complete assembly from JB LandRover in the UK at $248 (£UK101). My contact there was extremely helpful and tried very hard to find me a pump motor only without success. I actually used the pump motor from the assembly in my original frame as it was metal whilst the new one appears to be nylon. I've checked the Borgg pump fits that brand new frame OK.

The Borg pump has no markings on it. The LandRover pump (I suspect it's Bosch) carries two numbers - 25165432 and A2895-2. The Borgg has a filter gauze inside the fuel entry orifice and the filter sock has a gauze packing to help it retain its shape better, neither of which are present in the LandRover pump.

Short of trying it in the vehicle (which is a little tricky as I have a set of "scuba" gas tanks mounted to the floor above it) I'm happy that it will at least make a good spare and I have no reason to believe it won't be a permanent repair should I require it.

Thanks again for your research and info, Philip.