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    Quote Originally Posted by Grizzly_Adams View Post
    They list them for Defender 90's
    the ones i list above are for the rear of a 110 according to truckspring.com
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    Quote Originally Posted by incisor View Post
    the ones i list above are for the rear of a 110 according to truckspring.com
    hence my Q to Brian re which brand he bought.

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    Hiya Inc.,

    Having a look at truckspring.com for the SKU you mentioned leads me to this page: 61741 Air Lift 1000 Air Spring Kit for Coil Spring Suspensions

    I can't see any reference to a 110 on that page (though admittedly I haven't searched any further either). However it does say down the bottom:

    MakeModelStart YearEnd YearAdditional InfoLand RoverDefender19941997(USA Only)
    But as we've already established no 110's were sold in the US during that time, only in 1993 we believe... indeed, if you follow it through to the airspring site Air Lift Company and try to select by vehicle they only have the Defender 90's listed... so I'm still not convinced.

    Brian I'm sure they work well, as do many other products. However if they don't have the right stamps etc. in Australia you and I both know that an insurance company can use that as a perfect excuse not to cover you in case of a claim.

    If you've got Fully Comprehensive insurance (and I'm not saying we all do) then until they release a version for the 110 I would be more inclined to save my money and get the PolyAirs - simply because it could save you big bucks in the long run

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    Not sure about Firestones only recently aware they made airbags.

    Have had Poly Air in '76 Range Rover fitted back in the 80"s after load leveler failed and are still in the vehicle and went all over Australia.

    Now in Defender and just performing as well when required. The only dicky thing about the Defender fittment is you have to weld a flat piece of steel across the top of spring holder to stop popping out the top, the plate is supplied.

    Other than that easy to fit just drop out the rear springs, shove in block if lifted, put in air bag etc etc.

    BTW cost $340 from Heasman at Sydenham...Sydney.

    Fitted only to carry big load of fuel to cross Madigans Line in the Simpson, & as it turned out didn't require half the fuel I carried.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RoverOne View Post
    The only dicky thing about the Defender fittment is you have to weld a flat piece of steel across the top of spring holder to stop popping out the top, the plate is supplied.
    I fitted some to a County yonks ago and rather than welding, I drilled a hole in each corner for about an 8mm bolt, from memory. I removed the spring, clamped the plate in place and drilled up from underneath through both. Worked quite well, but in those early days the bags and the airlines both used to fail. I believe those issues have both been fixed now.

    I'm about to install a set in the new year in preparation for a Hay River run next winter.

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    defender 90 = Vehicle Search


    defender 110 = Vehicle Search


    discovery 1 = Vehicle Search


    all are rear of 1995 vehicles

    defender 90's have same rear spring as disco 1 which is a different sku to what i believe is the 110 sku .

    and yes i too would like to see a set in my hot little hands before i say 100% but from what i see they are 99% the real deal.

    was dam sure someone on here got them and was happy as, but dammed if i can remember who it was, bloody lack of memory is giving me the irits......
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    Sorry Inc. still can't see 110 mentioned anywhere on the site - even following your URL.

    The only difference is in the "Additional Info" section and I believe it's more to do with the different manufacturers - the blue ones are firestone (Defender 90 Only) and the red ones are air lift (USA Only).

    As I said before if you follow through to the manufacturers site they don't specify a Defender 110 as a suitable application, so I don't see how truckspring could anyway....

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    Quote Originally Posted by incisor View Post
    was dam sure someone on here got them and was happy as, but dammed if i can remember who it was, bloody lack of memory is giving me the irits......
    I know Brian Heljm has a set of the firestones in the back of his County and he is very happy with them.. does that ring any bells?

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    will fitting air bags reduce rear wheel articulation???
    Also, I have the G-Force hydro swaybars on the disco, will air bags upset this??? (my guess is no).
    I currently run standard length springs (i think) with a 2" body lift, will the firestone airbags work in longer springs if i should decide to do a 2" spring lift????

    oh....thanks in advance for any advice.

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    I have polyairs and I too am thinking of fitting new lifted springs ( 40-50mm lift) Now if I only fit front springs, can the OE and air bags cope with lifting the rear to match ? Any thoughts ? over load bags, make it unstable ? anyone else done this ? I can see if a bag lets go it will really drop that corner.

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