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7th July 2008, 06:27 PM
#31
Hi,
This is definitely not my area of expertise........... but I do read a lot.
Intermittent fault suggests electric in origin.
Blinkers going (as in hazard pattern) are a sign the impact sensor has been tripped and the car will go into 'limp mode'.
There was a very funny thread about this on Pirate some time ago that involved dead chickens.
Could it be that there is an intermittent prob with the inertia switch that is doing this?
From memory the blinkers will still keep flashing even with all fuses pulled with this prob. i.e. when you think this prob is likely to occur..... pull the blinker fuse and if the thing stutters and the blinkers go you have some where to look.
You could also try pressing the reset button on said switch and see if that helps.
Good luck, DL
I'm too old for pcb's.
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7th July 2008, 06:47 PM
#32
dave, i think youve hit the nail on the head exactly. this has been the biggest problem in that it will go away for a few thousand kilometres especially now that they have changed the oily loom. i could well sympathise with the mechanic, i knew i had to take it away and log details of the regularity etc.
for me to find bubbles or for a mechanic to find the problem would indeed be a hit and miss afair. these days apart from the acclerator pot showing errors i just couldnt say when its going to happen. i reckon i will just drive and wait for the next error, it may never happen again but when it does it just makes you slump in the seat feeling demoralised man..
but i can live with the odd misfire. it does **** you though if they get more regular and theres no errors. i reckon next time i get an error it will be another faulty part and not fix the misfire anyways.
lionel, your new loom will have a plastic bar code for the part with the date of manufacture, that was how i knew they had indeed changed it after the problem arose again. mine was a 2007.
the first guy i was dealing with at artarmon was great, the mechanic was very helpful in asking questions and explaingin everything too. if youyve got a mechanic that is now working an office job it makes all the difference.
i dont know what this new guy is doing to me by charging me parts and labour under extended warranty.
im glad youve made me aware i should ring alliance next time. ill have to ask them for full copy of my warranty too.
problems aside im really loving the car.
and yes, the empty loom must be for heater cables. thats the position.
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7th July 2008, 06:55 PM
#33
oh and i never had the blinkers come on by themselves. i found that when the engine was missing and i had to use the blinkers at the time to take a corner (by pure chance or luck it) would trigger a limp mode.
i better be careful for ever when im heading into a lane with a car or truck on its way hey.
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7th July 2008, 07:02 PM
#34
Runger,
It really sounds like an electric prob. The blinkers get set off by going into limp mode......... not the other way round. Try pulling the blinker fuse and see if it still does it. Bet not.
Will find the chicken thread to lighten this drama up.
cheers, DL
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7th July 2008, 07:22 PM
#35
i understand what you mean now. however my car will misfire when im driving in a straight line and not go to idle mode. nor will the blinkers come on.
one time i did stick my hazards on becasue i had cars on my tail wondering what i was doing sittting on a hill bend intersection going no where fast. i had already gone into limp mode after i stuck the left blinker on.
i would think that the blinker was triggering the misfire had it not happened to me numerous times when going on a straight road. thats not to say that the blinker isnt helping it misfire on those corners though. i cant say for sure yet if the car begins its misfiring before i hit the blinker or only after on those occasions. but the day that first happened my car had been misfirirng a thousand times anyway, blinkers on or not.
are you thinking off the flashing lights problem?
if i happen to be coming up to a corner, i stick on my blinker and then i get a misfire the car will lose its revs back to idle speed and have no accellerator.
but that may not be going to happen next time for all i know now that the acclerator pot is new.
i could try pull my fuse out for the blinkers if im pretty quick when it misfires but then i would likely just get a misfire and no error code.
i think your chicken thread would tell us if its the same thing for sure.
ill go back and check the other link now. thanks.
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7th July 2008, 07:24 PM
#36
were you suggesting to pull out my fuse and see if i dont get a misfire for the next few thousand ks? my last misfire i had was leaving the service department and i was on a straight run on the pacific hwy.
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7th July 2008, 07:37 PM
#37
Hi Runger,
If you pull the fuse you won't have blinkers. I was more suggesting that when it went into limp mode then pull the fuse and see what happens.
I would be pressing the reset button on the inertia switch first and having a look at the contacts on that, etc.
HTH
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7th July 2008, 08:00 PM
#38
Hi,
Chicken thread is here:
friends problem - Pirate4x4.Com Bulletin Board
I wish you well with this and I really don't know how all you guys put up with gremlins like this and the 3 amigos, EAS, MAF's, ACE..................
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7th July 2008, 09:49 PM
#39
next time if it goes to limp mode i will try it and let you know, till then i wonder if you can do that chicken thing using a gander and grass clippings as a substitute. thanks for the link and your help.
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8th July 2008, 06:03 PM
#40
long Shot......check where the wiring loom from the MAF and AAP that goes over the air cond compressor. The black plastic loom tube discinterates and the wires slowly melt onto the compressor causing intermittant shorts, stuffing up the signal to the ECU and causing what feels like a missfire on a petrol engine from your TD5.
Worth Checking..
BradM
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