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    seting the timing on a d1 v8

    as mentioned in other threads i have had a few ignition problems on the d1

    ive replaceed the coil, vacume advance and ignition module.

    with out seeking ppl's advice i took the dissy ,i did this to get to the ignition module....


    now i need to do the timing... never done this b4 in my life.

    is it easy to do,? i have replaced the dissy in same place as it was b4 being removed. wont start, i even slightly moved dissy to see if it will run even if its rough as guts its a start...


    what is real important is me trying to turn it over, will this cause any internal damage.???

    of course the engine wasnt turned over with the dissy out...

    has any 1 got any pointers or suggestions?

    i will have to get a mobile mech out if i cant get it started my self..

    thanks again.

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    you say you have replaced the distributor in the same place from whence it came,
    can you give me some description of what you did to make sure you could put it back in the same place?
    i am thinking along the lines of the rotor pointing at another place to the direction it was in when you removed it.
    if you got that correct, then i suggest you may still have a wire or plug off.
    as you have already tried to start it, and it didn't agree with your intention, then if it was fitted and 'home' - ei the drive gears were engaged then no damage will have resulted,
    did it show any signs of life? backfire, spark, cough?
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    Quote Originally Posted by harry View Post
    you say you have replaced the distributor in the same place from whence it came,
    can you give me some description of what you did to make sure you could put it back in the same place?
    i am thinking along the lines of the rotor pointing at another place to the direction it was in when you removed it.
    if you got that correct, then i suggest you may still have a wire or plug off.
    as you have already tried to start it, and it didn't agree with your intention, then if it was fitted and 'home' - ei the drive gears were engaged then no damage will have resulted,
    did it show any signs of life? backfire, spark, cough?
    um ok.. dissy has a clamp to hold it in position.i put it back alligning where the clamp marks are on the dissy(if that makes sense). i assume now i have stuffed somthing up. if the rotor button moves does that matter?

    it made a bit of a coughing sound when trying to start

    all leads are on as i didnt dissconect them. everything has been checked, ive got spark etc...
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    the main thing im realy worried about is any damage.......

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    well thanks for the answer, it would appear that you didn't realign the rotor button to point where it was pointing before you took the disturberator out - bugger.
    now we have start from scratch.
    no need to worry about damage, it is most unlikely.
    now we , no you, have to find no 1 cylinder,
    rotate the crankshaft until the piston is on top dead centre of the compression stroke and reset the distributor with the rotor pointing at no. 1 cylinder position, which you will find by tracing the no 1 plug lead back to the dist. cap.
    no 1 cyl. is the front left bank. static timing is 6deg BTDC.
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    Quote Originally Posted by harry View Post
    well thanks for the answer, it would appear that you didn't realign the rotor button to point where it was pointing before you took the disturberator out - bugger.
    now we have start from scratch.
    no need to worry about damage, it is most unlikely.
    now we , no you, have to find no 1 cylinder,
    rotate the crankshaft until the piston is on top dead centre of the compression stroke and reset the distributor with the rotor pointing at no. 1 cylinder position, which you will find by tracing the no 1 plug lead back to the dist. cap.
    no 1 cyl. is the front left bank. static timing is 6deg BTDC.
    ^^^^^that

    Surely there is someone in Brissy who could drop in and set your dizzy up and drink a few of your beers, I would if you were somewhat local

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    Quote Originally Posted by glenn82 View Post
    the main thing im realy worried about is any damage.......
    Nah, she'll be

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    so take out no1 plug... manualy turn over crank untill piston is at top?? (feel for the air to pushed out)then postion rotor to no1 on dissy cap? then replace spark plug and i may posibly be close to starting...

    then i will need a timing light to do the rest?

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    Quote Originally Posted by glenn82 View Post
    so take out no1 plug... manualy turn over crank untill piston is at top?? (feel for the air to pushed out)then postion rotor to no1 on dissy cap? then replace spark plug and i may posibly be close to starting...

    then i will need a timing light to do the rest?
    Yep, turn over, air pushes out, compression stroke, get it near to dead centre, align the timing mark on the harmonic balancer, fit distributor so as to align rotor button with No 1 plug lead, being careful to align with oil pump drive, stick it in and start her up, yea timing light is of aid, but once its running, you can simply advance till it pings, then retard the timing a little, but timing light is best for beginners

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    The first thing you will be stoked to hear is that you can get the module off without removing the distributor. I did this once recently when I moved mine to near the coil. Probably not so easy to get it back on but probably possible.

    Harry has already said how to do it. I removed the dizzy to do something on mine and took me a day or so to get it running againing with the help of Tank on the phone. I'm an expert now I had it 180 deg out and did no harm.

    Where abouts in Brisbane are you? If you're near me (Runcorn) then I can give you a hand.

    12 deg BTDC is supposed to be optimum for 3.9 unleaded. That's what I run without issue.

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