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    Red face Help with a Ford, yes you heard a Ford

    Yes, Yes, I know this is a LR Forum, but maybe someone can still help me, pleeeassseee!

    I've found that its a lot harder to get info on a common car than a Landrover. I also posted this on Aus Ford Forums.

    The Problem: AU III Futura, When travelling up a long hill on a hot day (like 43degrees) the car begins to cut out, as if someone is turning the ignition on an off.

    I have had fault codes read and came back with "ignition monitor self test out of range" so I have checked coil pack resistance, changed leads, and fuel filter, which had never been done (95,000kms), problem has happened again but only in extreme heat.

    Could it be the cylinder de-activation in the ECU due to excessive heat??
    I have also noticed the coolant comes out the overflow when engine off sometimes, but returns to normal level when started. Temp guage reads about the "O" on normal. Running my hand over the Radiator it seems to be cooler down the bottom even though it is a crossflow rad. Should I have it flushed?

    Other than this the car runs smooth, and responsive, and you wouldn't know there was a problem??? I need to get this car fixed so I can stop driving it, and return it to my folks.

    Any Advice appreciated? Apart from return it to the rubbish dump or any other Ford Jokes

    Stu

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    As you suggested it probably is shuting cylinders down due to overheating.
    Spiting coolant out and it still reading a normal level is a wory.
    First check would be a "sniffer test" to detect exhaust gasses in the coolant.Any mechanic should have the gear to do so.
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    Could it be something as simple as an airlock in the fuel system? I remember my Dad having a similar problem on 'hot days' (!) in the UK years ago, although that was a carby not EFI. I also had a problem starting on hot days in a V8 TR7, i was advised to change a 6 inch long rubber fuel line running into the Holley for a stainless braided item. Apparently the heat caused the fuel to evaporate from that section, braided hose kept the fuel cooler! The guy i bought the car from had always had this problem, once i did this it never happened again.

    Regards, Duncan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 81stubee View Post
    Yes, Yes, I know this is a LR Forum, but maybe someone can still help me,

    The Problem: AU III Futura,
    Any Advice appreciated? Apart from return it to the rubbish dump or any other Ford Jokes

    Stu
    I can't help, but ... can you confirm if this is

    Petrol only
    Dedicated gas
    Gas / Petrol


    Coolant loss ... sure it's not the water draining from the A/C??

    Fords? .... would only drive a Ford

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    See if you can get the thermostat checked out. I think from memory the factory ones had a tendency of going walkabout.... not opening at the right temp causing engine to overheat etc...

    Pete - AU wagon

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    Quote Originally Posted by 81stubee View Post
    Yes, Yes, I know this is a LR Forum, but maybe someone can still help me, pleeeassseee!


    Any Advice appreciated? Apart from return it to the rubbish dump or any other Ford Jokes

    Stu

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    Thanks for the Help guys,

    Car is an AUIII Sedan 4.0l I6 on Petrol only.

    Was thinking about the thermostat and radiator. Neither have been touched from new (hoses still have the snap off hose clamps).

    Duncan - Vapour Lock was a thought due to the excessive temps we've been having at the moment, hence changing the filter, to no avail.

    Mike90 - Definately coolant, when stopped the coolant level goes up and then overflows, but returns to normal when started.

    When running you can see coolant coming into the tank from the thermostat housing bleed, but not the radiator bleed, is this normal???

    Otherthing is, I can feel a temperature difference between the top and bottom of the radiator, is this normal as it is crossflow? Appears to be no temp difference across the top (left to right) its bl**dy hot, but much cooler down the bottom.

    Stu

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    first thing i would be looking at is ignition problems, but also the thermostat housing bleed is a bit of a concern, chuck a new thermostat in and change the coolant while you're at it

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    ford help

    Hello How much fuel is in the tank?

    Also is the fuel pump noisey e.g. is it cavitating loud grumbling noise in tank possibly boiling fuel in the line causing it to vapourise.

    any thing is possible when we cant see it or hear it.

    thanks Ralph.

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    I had a Holden VL turbo, when the car ran hot it would cut out....

    the problem was a Crank Angle Sensor, which controls timing, maybe the ford has this also....

    hope this helps

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