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Thread: best way to swap trans fluid in a ZF?

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    Pedro, there's been a lot of talk of the different flush machines on the BITOG forum over the years, but I've never paid any attention seeing as I don't drive a slush box.
    Might pay to do some searching/reading here ATF, Differential, Trans, Brake, P/S - Bob Is The Oil Guy and here Mechanical /Maintenance Forum - Bob Is The Oil Guy
    Beware, their search engine is crap. Best to do a search using Google.

    Autospeed have an article outlining the different flush techniques here Browser Warning

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    If you don't want to drop the box the trick I heard was do either a few flushes or as stated disconnect a cooler line and keep feeding fluid in while it's running. If they are different colour fluids it is supposed to be easy to tell the difference.

    Also what's this alternative to transmax z???

    Costs an arm and a leg to replace that stuff at least once a year.

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    Hi Edd
    I have Penrite ATF-Synthetic.
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    I had the disco flushed and a new filter fitted last year by an auto trans specialist.It worked very well as there was not even the slightest streak of dark fluid afterwoulds.To me it is like the cooling system,get it done once properly by a specialist. Pat

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    Quote Originally Posted by LandyAndy View Post
    Hi Edd
    I have Penrite ATF-Synthetic.
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    Andy... DONT USE THIS....

    Correct Penrite for the ZF is Penrite BMV....

    I spoke to a tech at Penrite at length about this.... BMV is the one you need to use, not Penrite Synth.

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    Hi Toombie
    Will double check the lable,it does have Range Rover/Landrover along with a heap of european makes on it,but it could be the newies.
    PS,this stuff INSNT Penrite SYNTH you see in Supercrapp etc. Penrite ATF-Synthetic.The local mechanic that long since left bought it for my Grader,we inherited it when he left.We were told not to use it in the grader as it isnt the correct spec and will void our warranty.
    Im running it in my TD5 manual at the moment but after reading some of Rick130s posts I will revert to a MTF once I start doing more towing.It has fixed the baulking in my 243000km old box nicely
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    I think I posted this a week or so back, but it doesn't hurt to do a re-hash.
    This is the official ZF TE-ML-11 approval list for their transmissions. http://www01apps.zf.com/kst464/ZF_In...doID=1&id=2371

    Here is the TDS for Penrite BMV http://www.penriteoil.com.au/pis_pdfs/PI_ATF%20BMV.pdf
    This doc is interesting http://www.penrite.com.au/tech_pdfs/74_ATF_BMV.pdf

    and FWIW, Penrite SIN ATF also lists ZF TE-ML-14C (synthetic commercial vehicle ATF) as a spec it meets.
    Commercial ZF (TE-ML-14) approval list here http://www01apps.zf.com/kst464/ZF_In...doID=1&id=2493
    <edit> As Mike suggested, I'd check with Penrite before substituting SIN ATF for BMV. Just cause it lists the commercial spec doesn't automatically confer it meets/exceeds the 11b spec too, even though fluids like Transmax Z are dual rated.

    All ZF approval lists here http://www01apps.zf.com/kst464/ZF_In...2&downLangID=2

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    Quote Originally Posted by rick130 View Post
    I think I posted this a week or so back, but it doesn't hurt to do a re-hash.
    This is the official ZF TE-ML-11 approval list for their transmissions. http://www01apps.zf.com/kst464/ZF_In...doID=1&id=2371

    Here is the TDS for Penrite BMV http://www.penriteoil.com.au/pis_pdfs/PI_ATF%20BMV.pdf
    This doc is interesting http://www.penrite.com.au/tech_pdfs/74_ATF_BMV.pdf

    and FWIW, Penrite SIN ATF also lists ZF TE-ML-14C (synthetic ATF) as a spec it meets.
    Interesting, but do you think LR used Esso LT71141 in their automatics from the factory? Perhaps in D3s but I doubt in any D1/D2.

    I use the BMV.

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    Quote Originally Posted by B92 8NW View Post
    Interesting, but do you think LR used Esso LT71141 in their automatics from the factory? Perhaps in D3s but I doubt in any D1/D2.

    I use the BMV.
    More than likely one of Texaco's Texamatic fluids that was on the approval list, seeing as they had such a strong tie in with Texaco UK at the time.
    TE-ML-11A are mineral based Dexron II spec fluids anyway.

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    Not a ZF, but I did a fluid change on a Nissan auto behind a TD 27 for a mate before they came with us across the nullarbor.

    It (fortunately) had a drain plug, but no filler. I drained the fluid out, and filled through the dipstick hole (using an adaptor to a funnel made from rubber tubing). started, drained, and filled again. I was using standard fluid, not synthetic though, so it wasn't too $$$.

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