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    SheldonA Guest

    4 speed Auto on its way :)

    Long story short...

    I've got a Ford AOD that's been behind a 4BD1T for over 13 years in a county coming my way.

    Until I get it into my possession all the finer details are a bit sketchy, but I have a stack of documents from the original owner about his vehicle and the conversion.

    Originally a farmer got an engineering mob to design and manufacture the adaptors for 4BD1T, AOD, LT230.

    He sold this to a bloke who has had it 13 years and until last year he had trouble free operation. Last year something went wrong (not sure of actaully what) and now the torque converter has gone. So he's converted to manaul given he lives out in woop woop.

    Ratio's of the AOD

    2.40
    1.47
    1
    0.67 Tall over-drive!
    R 2.0

    The original AOD was hydraulicly controlled and is so in this conversion coming.

    Now, from my little bit of research;

    The AOD was later updated to an electronic version

    Then updated to the 4R70W (electronic), and was stronger with ratios;

    2.84
    1.55
    1
    .7
    R 2.23

    The two transmissions are such that many parts can be interchanged and it appears can be built very strong.

    There is a wealth of knowledge on these boxes and how to build them strong.

    I am thinking 4R70W that is hydraulicly controlled would be a nice option (if possible)

    Once I get a hold of it all I will provide more details....

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    you suck




    i really wanted an auto

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    What is a box like that originally out of?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dougal View Post
    What is a box like that originally out of?
    The one coming my way was from a ford Lincoln.

    From wiki;

    AOD;

    1980–1986 Ford LTD
    1980–1993 Ford Thunderbird
    1980–1993 Mercury Cougar
    1984–1993 Ford Mustang
    1980–1986 Mercury Marquis
    1980–1987 Lincoln Continental
    1980–1983 Lincoln Mark VI
    1983–1990 Ford Econoline
    1983–1991 Ford LTD Crown Victoria
    1983–1992 Mercury Grand Marquis
    1982–1993 Ford Bronco
    1981–1992 Lincoln Town Car
    1980–1987 Lincoln Continental
    1980–1983 Lincoln Mark VI
    1984–1992 Lincoln Mark VII
    1992 Ford Crown Victoria


    AODE;

    1992–1994 Lincoln Town Car
    1991 and up Ford F-Series
    1993–1994 Ford Crown Victoria
    1993–1994 Mercury Grand Marquis
    1994–1995 Ford Mustang


    4R70W;

    1993–1998 Lincoln Mark VIII
    1993–2003 Ford F-Series
    1994–1997 Ford Thunderbird
    1995–2004 Ford Crown Victoria
    1996–2001 Ford Explorer
    1993–2004 Lincoln Town Car
    1994–1997 Mercury Cougar
    1995–2004 Mercury Grand Marquis
    2003 Mercury Marauder
    1997–2004 Ford Expedition
    1997–2001 Mercury Mountaineer
    1996–2004 Ford Mustang

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    If you look at Ford Truck Enthusiasts, 1948-2011 Ford F150, Super Duty & SUV owners community and information source. Covers F100, F-150, F250, Bronco, Ranger, Explorer, Expedition, Lighting, Escape and More there's a bunch of guys buying up crown vics etc for the front ends to convert the F series to IFS. Buying whole cars for a few hundred, would cost in shipping but might find a bargain stateside.

    I can't make the link smaller it's typed shorthand, reappears as that crap sorry.

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    Interesting!

    I'm partially into my A442F trans project, I'm using an 80 series TF case (full time 4x4) attached to the back of a 100 series A442F, and a Compushift stand alone ECU etc.

    I'm only amassing parts at the moment, I'll post pics etc when it all starts to come together.

    JC

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    The A442, is it the same as behind the 1/2/3UZ engines? Have been long term planning a 3UZ with associated auto and tfr into a D2 for a while. I can get 300Kw without thinking and even more torque plus a safe 7000rpm redline.

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    Quote Originally Posted by clubagreenie View Post
    The A442, is it the same as behind the 1/2/3UZ engines? Have been long term planning a 3UZ with associated auto and tfr into a D2 for a while. I can get 300Kw without thinking and even more torque plus a safe 7000rpm redline.
    AFAIK the petrol version isn't as beefier as the diesel A442. I was advised to obtain a diesel version, so i got one ex 100 series 1HDT-FTE.

    I am not an expert on which version is better etc, its just what I was told by Rodney at Wholesale Automatic Transmissions, who build these boxes to 800Hp+ outputs etc apparently They are very informative, helpful, and really seem to know there stuff.

    I don't get into this ' Its no longer a Landy' stuff, for arguments sake the ZF 4HP22 etc is not at all 'exclusive' to LR, so an Aisin Trans and an LC80 fulltime transfer case is fair game to fit up to an Isuzu in a 110 in my books

    JC

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    auto

    By the sounds of it all thats wrong is the flexplate broken! Common with a vibrating 4cyl diesel!



    Quote Originally Posted by the_grubb View Post
    Long story short...

    I've got a Ford AOD that's been behind a 4BD1T for over 13 years in a county coming my way.

    Until I get it into my possession all the finer details are a bit sketchy, but I have a stack of documents from the original owner about his vehicle and the conversion.

    Originally a farmer got an engineering mob to design and manufacture the adaptors for 4BD1T, AOD, LT230.

    He sold this to a bloke who has had it 13 years and until last year he had trouble free operation. Last year something went wrong (not sure of actaully what) and now the torque converter has gone. So he's converted to manaul given he lives out in woop woop.

    Ratio's of the AOD

    2.40
    1.47
    1
    0.67 Tall over-drive!
    R 2.0

    The original AOD was hydraulicly controlled and is so in this conversion coming.

    Now, from my little bit of research;

    The AOD was later updated to an electronic version

    Then updated to the 4R70W (electronic), and was stronger with ratios;

    2.84
    1.55
    1
    .7
    R 2.23

    The two transmissions are such that many parts can be interchanged and it appears can be built very strong.

    There is a wealth of knowledge on these boxes and how to build them strong.

    I am thinking 4R70W that is hydraulicly controlled would be a nice option (if possible)

    Once I get a hold of it all I will provide more details....

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    SheldonA Guest
    Quote Originally Posted by Vern View Post
    you suck




    i really wanted an auto

    Yes I suck. Sorry. Forget I mentioned this. I will throw the auto conversion in the bin. Happy now?

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