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Thread: well we have done it, bought a 91 RR for conversion

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    well we have done it, bought a 91 RR for conversion

    Well, yesterday we bought a very expensive 1991 RR, $1200-- planning on converting it to an Izuzu.

    But there is something major wrong with it. NO OIL LEAKS, it cant be a true Land Rover if it does not have a oil leak [not counting a very minor leak from Power Steering hose, the low pressure one from the Power Steering resevoir to the steering box.].

    So in my next post I will describe what we purchased.

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    Well we purchased this RR, first registered 3/1991, for only $1200, from a gum tree ad, Range Rover 91 Vogue $1500 | Cars | Gumtree Australia Queensland - Gold Coast Region has photo at the moment. So now I need to tell you all the problems with it.

    Its ARB bull bar is not winch compatable, and has stone chips in the paint, as has some of the panels. It is the V8 with auto, and drives very well if you do not get hypnotised by the fuel gauge moving at a too rapid rate towards empty. but that motor/Gearbox is to be removed when we do find a Izuzu motor/Gearbox.

    Some one thought it was a good idea to stand on that panel just in front of the windscreen so it now has a dent. There is a small dent in drivers door, size of a 20 cent peice, and a slightly larger one on rear right passanger door behind it. It needs the paint retouched on the bonnet and roof, about 1 square foot in each place, etc.

    The cooper tyres at 90% tread are on Vouge rims, and we will have to get rid of these rims in the markets-- not the Coopers. It has a Brand New Battery, a full leangth home made Roof-rack which badly needs painting, three petrol tanks, the two sill ones having there own switches/fuel pumps [I guess it has seperate fuel pumps], and has a cigarette diameter size burn hole in the rear seat, and two small tears about half an inch long in the front drivers seat. It also has a couple of screw holes in the dash where they must have had something like a GPS mounted.

    It did not come with a compressor for the airbags inside the springs.

    Aso the rear step bar has no swing out tyre carrier, and I cannot think of anything else wrong with it, except I do dislike that Green-- My son likes that Green, though does prefer another Green, and he paid for it.

    So as you can guess I actually do feel like smiling at the moment.

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    So my post on the Isuzu forum is too ask the question, what Isuzu diesel & manual gear box would you put into it???

    We are already considerring a 4BD1 [we had one in our series 3], but want other options. Trying to keep our expenses down, otherwise would probably chase up a Landrover TDV8.

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    actually I just thought of what else is wrong with it. It does need brakes over haulled [New Master Cylinder??], and I have been told the radiator has a leak.

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    Why not a Toyota 1PZ , 5 cylinder version of the bulletproof 1HZ
    I think would be a wonderful choice to go into a RRC

    Use the complete Engine / Gbox/ t-case & your done

    just happens to be one on ebay

    5cyl 1hz/Turbo 3.5L Engine/Motor gearbox/transfer case for 70 series Landcruiser | eBay

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    should mention that we have a spare R380 gearbox waiting for a rebuild [it has a few extra ghost gears, but seemed okay], and I do remember some people beefed up the R380 and put them behind a 4bd1, so that that may be a Gear box option for me.

    But if we were to consider something like that I would need a suitible bell housing to be freely available-- is it, and how much. What do people think of the sujestion of the Toyota motor??

    My brother has a Prado, just out of warrenty with a blown-up Diesel motor. Toyota agreed to pay half the cost and my brother will have to pay the other half. His prado towed a big caravan around Australia, and Toyota lainmed that was too much strain, but my brother argues that a Prado should do that.

    So when it is fixed he plans on selling the Prado and buying a Mazda BT-50 dual cab diesel [earlier he craked the chassis on a brand New Nissan, towing a van around Australia so will not onsider buying another Nissan].

    So any info on the suggested Toyota Motor would be appreciated.

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    Sounds like a good candidate for a conversion....
    Personally I don't like many Toyota motors but there top 3 would be...first: 12ht , second: 1hdt-fte , third: 1hdt... The 1hz's are as doey as Julia Gillard even when fuelled up and running higher than normal boost recommended for a NA IDI... Tdv8 you will find are fully computer controlled so if you don't like electrics I wouldn't even consider the nightmare...
    A Isuzu 4bd1t if you can find one would be the best bet or even a 6cyl Isuzu would be good...
    As for gearboxes I personally wouldn't touch anything that even suggests rover if you are going to be doing anything other than doing the shopping...

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    Quote Originally Posted by c.h.i.e.f View Post
    Sounds like a good candidate for a conversion....
    Personally I don't like many Toyota motors but there top 3 would be...first: 12ht , second: 1hdt-fte , third: 1hdt... The 1hz's are as doey as Julia Gillard even when fuelled up and running higher than normal boost recommended for a NA IDI... Tdv8 you will find are fully computer controlled so if you don't like electrics I wouldn't even consider the nightmare...
    A Isuzu 4bd1t if you can find one would be the best bet or even a 6cyl Isuzu would be good...
    As for gearboxes I personally wouldn't touch anything that even suggests rover if you are going to be doing anything other than doing the shopping...
    I should mention we absolutely do not want eletrical problems, hence our interest in the 4bd1. But also should consider other options without those electronics. Current car is a 300 TDI disco/R380, but we wanted more power. Knew that some people had put a 4bd1 into a RR, so thought this was a good idea.

    We sold our Series 3 with over 950,000 on the clock--would have loved to have seen a million, but sold it first. It had had the Lt-95 overhauled just before we purchased it at something like 820,000, but it had never had the head off-- we got it second hand, as described in an old Isuzu thread of mine on this AULRO forum.

    Only real trouble we had was we had to rebuild the starter, radiator leaked, and Alternator was playing up when we sold it, though it had other minor issues-- a relay problem, etc.

    Would love to know if it was back on the road!

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    Quote Originally Posted by c.h.i.e.f View Post
    Sounds like a good candidate for a conversion....
    Personally I don't like many Toyota motors but there top 3 would be...first: 12ht , second: 1hdt-fte , third: 1hdt... The 1hz's are as doey as Julia Gillard even when fuelled up and running higher than normal boost recommended for a NA IDI... Tdv8 you will find are fully computer controlled so if you don't like electrics I wouldn't even consider the nightmare...
    A Isuzu 4bd1t if you can find one would be the best bet or even a 6cyl Isuzu would be good...
    As for gearboxes I personally wouldn't touch anything that even suggests rover if you are going to be doing anything other than doing the shopping...
    If it was to be a car for shopping we would put in a 300TDI. Do not get ofroad much but do ocassionally.

    We have pulled an exavator, on a car trailer, up big hills behind a Land Rover, etc. so do want to work this RR hard.

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    The series 3 would have fallen apart before the Isuzu considering the km's....
    The v8 would be very expensive and the wiring would be ridiculous and I personally would steer clear and I'm a dumb leco
    ...
    Well I originally wanted to restore my old county to original spec just to use as a daily driver but once I started i can't stop playing with it
    The Isuzu engines are that far in front of all the other engines its unbelievable...I have not yet towed anything behind mine as it is in a million bits at the moment however as I've mentioned before on here it was a handful 300tdi had absolutely no chance against it nor does my puma (new defender) for example: my old boy took my puma for a drive I told him to hold it flat in 5th on double lanes up a hill near home whilst I was in the Isuzu, I gave him a 200m head start and that's about where the story ends not to mention a v6 commodore driver that would also have felt really stupid ...the end

    With an Isuzu you will have more than enough power as long as its turboed...
    The most amount of electrics I have is the blinkers and a turbo timer as I wired the car myself..

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