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Thread: Material differences btween a NPR 4BD1T and a ex-army 4BD1?

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    Quote Originally Posted by djam1 View Post
    While not suggesting that it is a good idea to put an R380 on an 4BD1 in any configuration the later R380 was strengthened beyond 380nm
    Only the original box was designed for 380nm but the suffix L is capable of a lot more than that I recall a quote somewhere I think from Dave Ashcroft indicating that they were capable of 440nm
    Are you there Dave?
    440Nm is a far cry from the 600nm you would get from a mildly tuned 4bd1t though

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    Am I missing something or is the combo LT95 / 4 speed not the way to go behind Isuzus

    Maybe ask Rijidij

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    Customer wants 5 speed. There are other options other than tge lt95 these days, which is still a good option thougg

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    Sort of on the subject.
    Will an ex Army LT95/Isuzu Bell housing bolt up to a Civvy Isuzu 4BD1 NPR Flywheel Housing?
    From a distance it looks as if the Army had their own Flywheel housing as the bolt pattern looks different.

    If not can a civvy (Say ex Rangie) LT95 bellhousing be swapped over for a Army (6x6) LT95 bellhousing. And Vice versa.
    The primary shafts look the same length.

    Keith

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    Quote Originally Posted by 123rover50 View Post
    Sort of on the subject.
    Will an ex Army LT95/Isuzu Bell housing bolt up to a Civvy Isuzu 4BD1 NPR Flywheel Housing?
    From a distance it looks as if the Army had their own Flywheel housing as the bolt pattern looks different.

    If not can a civvy (Say ex Rangie) LT95 bellhousing be swapped over for a Army (6x6) LT95 bellhousing. And Vice versa.
    The primary shafts look the same length.

    Keith
    No and Yes Keith, the landrover flywheel housing is a totally different offset and bolt pattern to the Isuzu truck one
    You can change the bellhousings over to suit the V8 or Isuzu. You are right the input shafts are all the same except for the 101 FC LT95 which has a short input shaft and bellhousing.
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    Thanks Brian. I thought you would know.
    25 odd years ago I put an ex Rangie LT95 behind an NPR 4BD1 with an adapter.( I forget whose it was now). Into my 2A Forward Control.
    This LT95 is getting a bit noisy so I thought I would swap it for one of those 6x6 ones I bought at the auctions. It has the TRB T,box whereas the one I have in now does not.
    So I will have to swap the Army bellhousing for the Rangie one thats on there now and all should be good.
    Well perhaps, as I dont know whats wrong with the ex Army one but thought I would put it in and see.

    Keith

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    Mate, I would be checking that ex army box out before you put it in the vehicle. All used boxes auctioned were removed for a reason. Every one I have pulled apart have had some problem, whether it be worn synchros, bent lock tabs on the input shaft bearings or transfer case problems.
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    The LT95 is a pretty rough box and has a bit of a long gap from third to fourth. The five speeds don't have the problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Red90 View Post
    The LT95 is a pretty rough box ..........

    ...and the 4BD1 is a pretty rough engine! A good match.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Red90 View Post
    The LT95 is a pretty rough box and has a bit of a long gap from third to fourth. The five speeds don't have the problem.
    The MSAs have a larger gap between 3rd and 4th; and between 2nd and 3rd, and between 1st and 2nd?

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