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  1. 24th February 2009, 11:41 PM #1
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    Exclamation Start/Stop Soleniod

    We've had a reasonable amount of rain up this way recently, and after one of many wet crossings I noticed the vehicle ran slightly rough, then while pulling over to investigate, I was unable to shut the engine down using the ignition switch. The fault was traced back to the start/stop soleniod, or rather the connecting wiring. I have since removed the solenoid, and rigged up a rough manual (pull wire) until I can find a cable that I can bring neatly into the cabin.

    It occurred to me that this start/stop soleniod and associated wiring, is a real liability as it may short and stop the engine, if it comes into contact with water. Once this has happened mid-crossing, you may be unable to re-start the vehicle, if the solenoid stays in the 'stop' position. Now you may say that any other fourby may have up to half a dozen issues in this situation, but we're talking Isuzu Landy's here, and I know they go further than most!. Anyone else had any issues with these?.
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  2. 25th February 2009, 12:28 AM #2
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    yep, we get it usually from people parking them in stupid places where run off of a roof drains onto the windshield and inundates the dash.

    I carry a small shifter (a 8/10mm ring spanner would be better) and if I have hassles the first thing I do is just what youve done.

    As part of my deep water fording prep (water over the top of the wheels) I'll stop the engine, turn it to the run position and then remove the fuse that provides constant power to the motor (its not normally a solenoid as such is more of a windshield wiper motor affair) that way even if the thing does drown it wont do anything to stop the engine and you dont find out untill you goto shut it down on the other side at which point you just reach under the air intake and manually operate the fuel cut lever.
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  3. 25th February 2009, 05:53 AM #3
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    Yes Gerry, I even gave my EDIC motor etc to Matt Rovercare for his Rangie. I have no desire for electric controls and have a Rover P6B choke cable through to my dash so I can shut it down that way, MANUALLY.

    Not sure if this is strictly legal, but then again having a potentially un stoppable engine isn't any better in my books.

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  4. 25th February 2009, 06:53 AM #4
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    Yep same thing happened to us
    we had to choke it to turn it off
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  5. 25th February 2009, 08:04 AM #5
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    Ever been stuck in a river with a motor that wont start , Crank it over with the stater motor and in gear
    With a manual gearbox that is
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    Quote Originally Posted by justinc View Post
    Yes Gerry, I even gave my EDIC motor etc to Matt Rovercare for his Rangie. I have no desire for electric controls and have a Rover P6B choke cable through to my dash so I can shut it down that way, MANUALLY.

    Not sure if this is strictly legal, but then again having a potentially un stoppable engine isn't any better in my books.

    K.I.S.S. strikes again!

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  7. 25th February 2009, 02:37 PM #7
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    Finding the fuse for these things can be tricky. It's not usually in the fuse box, but tucked up against the firewall behind the instrument panel. It's a good idea to move it somewhere easier to get your hands on when you get a chance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by long stroke View Post
    Yep same thing happened to us
    we had to choke it to turn it off
    How did you choke it

    Best to just actuate the pump stop by hand
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  9. 25th February 2009, 04:50 PM #9
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    I've only had an issue once. Little sister washed the truck and waterblasted the stereo and corner of the dash.

    I was every 3 seconds turning the fuel on and off, I simply pulled the fuse in the on position and drove it that way until it dried out. If I remember correctly cable pull is stop, so simply unhooking the cable leaves you with a motor that will always start and run, just not stop.

    A problem that's easily fixed with a 10mm spanner.
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    Quote Originally Posted by justinc View Post
    Yes Gerry, I even gave my EDIC motor etc to Matt Rovercare for his Rangie. I have no desire for electric controls and have a Rover P6B choke cable through to my dash so I can shut it down that way, MANUALLY.

    Not sure if this is strictly legal, but then again having a potentially un stoppable engine isn't any better in my books.

    K.I.S.S. strikes again!

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    No, it is not legal, since about 1983 from memory. The ADR's now require a stopper that is automatic when the electrics are turned off. From about 1970 to 1983 a stop cable had to be "locked" in the off position, hence the use then of those ratchet stop cables, or"push in to stop" cables.

    Re the fuse, when digging around under my dashboard Dave Blacknight found the fuse had been replaced by a 50 amp slow blow fuse. Dave's words were that the perpetraor may as well have used a copper nail.
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