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    Quote Originally Posted by Lotz-A-Landies View Post
    Thanks Jon - I assumed all Isuzu/County's were 1.41 transfers, but using the available 727torqueflyte ratios or the later RR/Disco ratios make sense. Thanks Bush65
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    My 86 110 Isuzu with LT95 is 0.996:1.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JDNSW View Post
    My 86 110 Isuzu with LT95 is 0.996:1.

    John
    Yes that's true of LT95 Isuzu's but the LT85 Isuzu's are a different matter as they use a LT230.

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    well i have read it all, and im confused

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lotz-A-Landies View Post
    Yes that's true of LT95 Isuzu's but the LT85 Isuzu's are a different matter as they use a LT230.
    Every LT85 ISUZU I have seen has been 1.003:1 so 4th in an LT85 and 4th in an LT95 isuzu county were the same.

    As Jon and others have mentioned, some of the very last countys (88-90 - of which there were very few made due to the huge price hike) had 1.222:1 t-cases.

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    I replaced my LT95 with a LT85, not sure what the ratio is, it feels high so I suspect its the 1.003:1. What was 4th in the 95 is about 3rd & a 1/4 now.
    The LT85 had done 210 000 behind a V8. Pulled down because of output shaft wear, but not much hardfacing on most of the bearing left.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rar110 View Post
    My wife complains about the heat under the passenger side floor so will probably re-route out through the inner guard as per factory spec.
    Be prepared for the complaints to continue... My wife is used to the factory set up getting hot under foot, particulary summer. In winter (down here in Vic) though I call it a built in floor warmer - mmm, warm, toasty feet.

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    Overdrive for LT95

    The only commercial overdrive I know of for the LT95 is the Fairy unit. I put a new one in one of my old rangies - it was expensive and noisy. They are reputed to be weak, but mine lasted while I had it. They were only suitable for the torque of the old 3.5 V8 in top gear and not strong enough for torque available in lower gears. AFAIK they are no longer made.

    Some years back, Bill Larman made his own overdrive, splitter from a spare LT95.

    It was 7-3/4" long including an adaptor plate for a Ford gearbox. Because it was fitted in front of the gearbox it was only subjected to engine torque and could be used to split the lower gears, as well as for overdrive in top gear.

    He used 4th and 3rd gears from the LT95, and reversed the gears so that 3rd gave the overdrive (about 34%).

    Here are some pics of Bill's splitter from another forum. The 1st shows assembly of the modified LT95 internals, the 2nd is a view from the rear of the splitter, the 4th shows the splitter mounted in front of a Ford truck gearbox.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bush65 View Post
    The only commercial overdrive I know of for the LT95 is the Fairy unit. I put a new one in one of my old rangies - it was expensive and noisy. They are reputed to be weak, but mine lasted while I had it. They were only suitable for the torque of the old 3.5 V8 in top gear and not strong enough for torque available in lower gears. AFAIK they are no longer made.

    Some years back, Bill Larman made his own overdrive, splitter from a spare LT95.

    It was 7-3/4" long including an adaptor plate for a Ford gearbox. Because it was fitted in front of the gearbox it was only subjected to engine torque and could be used to split the lower gears, as well as for overdrive in top gear.

    He used 4th and 3rd gears from the LT95, and reversed the gears so that 3rd gave the overdrive (about 34%).

    Here are some pics of Bill's splitter from another forum. The 1st shows assembly of the modified LT95 internals, the 2nd is a view from the rear of the splitter, the 4th shows the splitter mounted in front of a Ford truck gearbox.
    I love Bill's awesome inventions!!!

    Does anyone know what he is up to these days?

    As a slight digression,
    The rover overdrives were even weaker, and also for use in 4th only, however I knew some people who got away with using them as splitters in low and high range when needed. e.g. 1st low + overdrive is a very nice gear between 1st and second - when you need some extra speed but the hill is too steep for 2nd. However you had to be very gentle, even with a 2.25...

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    Quote Originally Posted by isuzurover View Post
    I love Bill's awesome inventions!!!

    Does anyone know what he is up to these days?

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    Bill does remarkable work and his knowledge, foresight and application is outstanding. He doesn't have access to lathes and the like now, to continue developing similar projects like in the past.

    I haven't heard too much from him for some time, but he still pops up from time to time.

    From what I understand his property was burnt out in the Vic bush fires.

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    Quote Originally Posted by isuzurover View Post
    <snip>...The rover overdrives were even weaker, and also for use in 4th only, however I knew some people who got away with using them as splitters in low and high range when needed. ...<snip>
    Ben

    There were so many extractions of Roverdrive such as Farey Overdrive and Toro-overdrive and Roverdrive by Rocky-Mountain (the parabolic spring people.)

    AFAIK the Roverdrive by Rocky-Mountain were very strong and quiet overdrives using planetary gearsets from US auto-transmissions designed for BIG powerful Yankie V8s.

    The Fairey the same people who made the Farey Swordfish Bi-Planes of WWII fame and Mayflower Automotive Products (MAP) had an appaling reputation, they used parts from Rover TC2000 gearboxes with a thimble full of oil that ran out into the transfer box and then expected them to survive the rigours of Range Rovers and Series Land Rovers. The Farey I fitted to my 1980 RRc only lasted 6 months from new on a stock standard 3.5 carby V8. The Toro were a copy and only marginally better. However the later Farey overdrives for the LT95 had a mechanism (borrowed from the rocky mountains assembly I believe) which scavenged oil splashes from the transfer and pulled it into the O/D unit by an Archemedes screw device. These are an improvement over the type I had.

    Which type do you mean?

    Diana

    You won't find me on: faceplant; Scipe; Infragam; LumpedIn; ShapCnat or Twitting. I'm just not that interesting.

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