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    Well I've been searching... and i can't find any laws that say I can't carry a gas cylinder in my car (short of "large" cylinders ... eg: 500kg or more)....

    Must be super important these imaginary laws.
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    Yes Gav, but our peugeot loving friend here was trying to illegally transport 15kg cyl of LPG. But somehow it's the gas companies fault.
    He is also mistaking a certified LPG vehicle installation (which includes a pressure vessel) with an industrial gas cylinder - an LPG forklift cylinder. These are two completely different things.

    Hopefully he will cease badmouthing his supplier for looking out for his safety, the law, and his pocket from the potential fines if he was caught, and acknowledge that what he was trying to do was the reason why he was not supplied, NOT because they have it in for him as a person, or dislike the colour of his shirt, or cut of his jib
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    Quote Originally Posted by Toxic_Avenger View Post
    Yes Gav, but our peugeot loving friend here was trying to illegally transport 15kg cyl of LPG. But somehow it's the gas companies fault.
    He is also mistaking a certified LPG vehicle installation (which includes a pressure vessel) with an industrial gas cylinder - an LPG forklift cylinder. These are two completely different things.

    Hopefully he will cease badmouthing his supplier for looking out for his safety, the law, and his pocket from the potential fines if he was caught, and acknowledge that what he was trying to do was the reason why he was not supplied, NOT because they have it in for him as a person, or dislike the colour of his shirt, or cut of his jib
    Where is this law you keep speaking of ... I can't find it... I sure don't like peugeots either About all they did was completely stuff every Citroen ever made from the day they took over
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    There is this...not sure if it's the law https://www.qld.gov.au/emergency/saf...transport.html

    Just because you don't know anybody that has been killed.....doesn't mean it doesn't happen

    Full or over filled gas cylinders (nearly everybody I see decanting/filling gas cylinder does it incorrectly) do vent when there is a temperate increase

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    Quote Originally Posted by weeds View Post
    There is this...not sure if it's the law https://www.qld.gov.au/emergency/saf...transport.html

    Just because you don't know anybody that has been killed.....doesn't mean it doesn't happen

    Full or over filled gas cylinders (nearly everybody I see decanting/filling gas cylinder does it incorrectly) do vent when there is a temperate increase
    I found that ........ I live in victoria though and qld rules have no effect here I don't know how 9kg is "safe" and 14 is "dangerous" though. a 9kg bottle of gas blowing up would be an enormous explosion that would take out half the street.

    If there worried, they should just say anywhere a bottle is carried should be vented downward.. see how many people just drill a hole in there floor to get aorund this The modern utes with a canopy are far better sealed up than the boot of any car I own .... Yet they are "legal" .... like most laws, there just ridiculous, stupid and not thought out.

    It also appears to be just a "suggestion".ll where is the laws/regulations that state any of this.
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    looks like a suggestion, not a law to me. Must be why it's so "well known",.
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    I give up.......you win

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    Quote Originally Posted by weeds View Post
    I give up.......you win
    I don't want to "win" ... I just don't understand any of this. It's simply ridiculous. Not allowing people to fill gas bottles from LPG pumps ... That is sensible. requiring anything to be vented downward is sensible. requiring any cylinder to be contained is sensible.

    Saying a cylinder must be carried in a ute ... if it is greater than 9kg is just stupid. try tying down a cylinder in the back of a ute and see how you go... it'll crashing around back there like crazy... launching itself from side to side around corners, end to end when you accelerate and brake. In the boot of a car, it's contained. can barely move, especially if you have it packed in with other stuff. plenty of venting in most old cars due to the rust hole under the spare wheel too
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    Here's the law - Dangerous Goods (Road and Rail Transport) Act 2008:
    NSW Legislation

    Industry body - ANZIGA have transport guidelines to compement the act
    [ame]http://anziga.org/public/editor_images/Publication/142-001_B6_Safety_ADvice_Transporting_Gas_Cylinders_or _Cryogenic_Liquid_Receptacles_in_vehicles.pdf[/ame]

    [ame]http://anziga.org/public/editor_images/Publication/142-007%2007%20Guideline%201%20Transporting%20Gas%20Cy linders%20%20other%20Products%20%28final%29.pdf[/ame]



    But yeah Shane, you win.

    Please, for the sake of us all, carry ALL the LPG you want in your vehicle for as long as you want. Since you know of NO ONE who has ever died due to a LPG explosion in a vehicle, then surely it must be such a insignificant risk that is not worth consider mitigating actions?

    If you are such a daredevil that common sense, industry guidelines / regulations and the advice of the professionals selling the product are not to be heeded, then I guess you are a smarter bloke than us all, and we should not even challenge your wishes.
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