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    Quote Originally Posted by Toxic_Avenger View Post
    Please, for the sake of us all, carry ALL the LPG you want in your vehicle for as long as you want. Since you know of NO ONE who has ever died due to a LPG explosion in a vehicle, then surely it must be such a insignificant risk that is not worth consider mitigating actions?

    If you are such a daredevil that common sense, industry guidelines / regulations and the advice of the professionals selling the product are not to be heeded, then I guess you are a smarter bloke than us all, and we should not even challenge your wishes.
    Thanks for the links.

    yes I sure will do whatever I feel is the safest ( a bottle boucning around in a trailer sure is NOT this). I can guarantee it without doubt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toxic_Avenger View Post
    Here's the law - Dangerous Goods (Road and Rail Transport) Act 2008:
    NSW Legislation

    Industry body - ANZIGA have transport guidelines to compement the act
    http://anziga.org/public/editor_imag...n_vehicles.pdf

    http://anziga.org/public/editor_imag...28final%29.pdf



    But yeah Shane, you win.

    Please, for the sake of us all, carry ALL the LPG you want in your vehicle for as long as you want. Since you know of NO ONE who has ever died due to a LPG explosion in a vehicle, then surely it must be such a insignificant risk that is not worth consider mitigating actions?

    If you are such a daredevil that common sense, industry guidelines / regulations and the advice of the professionals selling the product are not to be heeded, then I guess you are a smarter bloke than us all, and we should not even challenge your wishes.
    Did you read any of them .... There only valid where your are carrying 250litres or more of gas.......................
    Proper cars--
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    '85 Series II CX2500 GTi Turbo I :burnrubber:
    '63 ID19 x 2 :wheelchair:
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    Modern Junk:
    '07 Poogoe 407 HDi 6spd manual :zzz:
    '11 Poogoe RCZ HDI 6spd manual

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    Yeah thought so ...

    Teenage boy in critical condition after gas bottle explodes in a car boot

    9kg is a hell of a bang. How is it possible that no-one smelt the LPG leaking (obviously the gas tap wasn't fully shut).

    Why isnt the universal law just ... "anything that carries LPG must be vented downward". For example I've seen a couple of caravans recently with two 9kg bottles in the front boot.......... and no vents or drains below them ( can you say BANG ! loud enough ? ).

    Interestingly my parents new bailey caravan has the "weight over the axle" caper, so the lpg bottles stored in the middle of the caravan. There is quite a complex drain to vent any leaking gas out. It almost looks like a big sink drain being guided down to the ground.

    seeya,
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    '85 Series II CX2500 GTi Turbo I :burnrubber:
    '63 ID19 x 2 :wheelchair:
    '72 DS21 ie 5spd pallas
    Modern Junk:
    '07 Poogoe 407 HDi 6spd manual :zzz:
    '11 Poogoe RCZ HDI 6spd manual

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    Bowser filling a forklift bottle is not straight forward as you think.
    Bowser filling works on a pressure pump and pressure sensing as a last resort to shut of the gas.
    Bowser filling of forklift or any other type of non Automotive bottle/tanks over fills them.
    The reason is Automotive bottles/tank have a AFL and is the reason why you don't need to open a ullage valve when filling them and in a automotive bottle it is the AFL which trips the bowser to cut out at the correct level in the automotive tank.
    No automotive tanks in 25 years or more years are fitted with a ullage valve.
    By the time bowser cuts out on a forklift bottle it is over full or at a pressure just under the opening of the relief valve.
    The other method would be to open the ullage valve to ensure correct filling level, but means dumping liquid gas at the servo.....and the bowser will be shut down if caught filling a forklift or non automotive bottle /tank.
    Weight scales method at the servo wouldnt be to easy either.
    Not all forklift bottles will fill from a service station bowser as the bowser Acme coupling will not clear the rim of a forklift bottle even though the correct type of Acme filler coupling is fitted to the forklift or household bottle.
    A clearance adaptor is used..............very hard to buy or find now as most people just go out and buy exchange forklift bottles already filled correctly delivered to your door.
    Laws are made for a reason.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 101 Ron View Post
    Bowser filling a forklift bottle is not straight forward as you think.
    Bowser filling works on a pressure pump and pressure sensing as a last resort to shut of the gas.
    Bowser filling of forklift or any other type of non Automotive bottle/tanks over fills them.
    The reason is Automotive bottles/tank have a AFL and is the reason why you don't need to open a ullage valve when filling them and in a automotive bottle it is the AFL which trips the bowser to cut out at the correct level in the automotive tank.
    No automotive tanks in 25 years or more years are fitted with a ullage valve.
    By the time bowser cuts out on a forklift bottle it is over full or at a pressure just under the opening of the relief valve.
    The other method would be to open the ullage valve to ensure correct filling level, but means dumping liquid gas at the servo.....and the bowser will be shut down if caught filling a forklift or non automotive bottle /tank.
    Weight scales method at the servo wouldnt be to easy either.
    Not all forklift bottles will fill from a service station bowser as the bowser Acme coupling will not clear the rim of a forklift bottle even though the correct type of Acme filler coupling is fitted to the forklift or household bottle.
    A clearance adaptor is used..............very hard to buy or find now as most people just go out and buy exchange forklift bottles already filled correctly delivered to your door.
    Laws are made for a reason.
    Oh, if I was ever going to fill something like one of those bottles. I'd just fill it by litres to about 3/4's of the capacity. That way you know you should be well within the safe fill range. ie: work out how many litres it holds at around 20 degrees Celsius ... and fill it to about 70% of that amount to give yourself plenty of wiggle room.

    Either way, I don't own a forklift, so it's no problem for me.

    seeya
    Shane L.
    Proper cars--
    '92 Range Rover 3.8V8 ... 5spd manual
    '85 Series II CX2500 GTi Turbo I :burnrubber:
    '63 ID19 x 2 :wheelchair:
    '72 DS21 ie 5spd pallas
    Modern Junk:
    '07 Poogoe 407 HDi 6spd manual :zzz:
    '11 Poogoe RCZ HDI 6spd manual

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