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    If they google it and most likely they did they would have come up with a one tonne payload .
    It was only ex Australian army 101s which have a one and a half tonne pay load.
    The plate on the fan tunnel is the same ,but is stamped with a GVM 3600kg ??????
    I will have to look at mine to see what the rating exactly is.
    I missed out on a LPGas subsidy when fitting the LPG because the GVM was over 3500kg.

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    rego in WA

    Gday All


    Just had a look at my WA rego and my TARE 1820 AGG 3000 GCM 5000
    oh and to answer a question I missed earlier im in Coolbellup.

    Cheers Gaz
    Last edited by DODGE; 3rd December 2014 at 10:16 AM. Reason: answering missed question

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    Mine is plated as
    Chassis no 96200051A
    Max vehicle laden WT. 3652 kg
    Max front axle. 1846 kg
    Max rear axle 1910. Kg
    Recommended Max towing cap 2 tons.
    My 101 the last time I took it over scales it was 2400 kg unloaded, but had its usual tools winching gear etc on board.
    My 101 is a bit fat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brute View Post
    Has any one got any paper work or documentation regarding the GVM. They reckon all the info they found shows the 101 as a 1 tonner, so have listed the aggregate as 2840kg ( tare on the weighbridge this morn was 1840kg)
    Said they would up it if I can show documentation.

    All in all not too disappointed.
    Hi Ian.
    I have the Vic Roads "Vehicle Assessment Signatory Scheme Approval Certificate" for my 101. It has a table that shows:
    Tare Mass: 2,560 kg (modified)
    GVM / GTM: 3,143 kg (Unmodified)
    GCM / ATM: 5,643 kg (Unmodified)
    Front axle group rating: 1,665 kg (Unmodified)
    Rear axle group rating: 1,592 kg (Unmodified)

    The "modified" status for the Tare Mass is due to the Eastern Wheelworks wheels fitted with 315/75 R16 tyres. The Tare Mass was taken directly from a weighbridge result sheet also in my files on the 101.

    You're welcome to borrow the certificate if it helps. I guess it's pretty specific to my vehicle but is from a credited engineer.

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    As Ron as mentioned all the Aussie 101s were 1.5 tonners but as far as I am aware when the 101 GS was introduced into the Brit Military they were 1 tonners hence the manuals show them as having a 1 tonne load capacity.

    BUT much later I believe the Brits upgraded their 101 GS to carry 1.5 tonnes. By upgraded they just changed the plates - after all the later Brit 101s and our 101s are the same spec.

    This aspect might be worthwhile looking at and docs obtained from the UK.

    Garry
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    1971 Jaguar V12 E-Type Series 3 Roadster
    1957 Series 1 88"
    1957 Series 1 88" Station Wagon

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    Quote Originally Posted by JayBoRover View Post
    Hi Ian.
    I have the Vic Roads "Vehicle Assessment Signatory Scheme Approval Certificate" for my 101. It has a table that shows:
    Tare Mass: 2,560 kg (modified)
    GVM / GTM: 3,143 kg (Unmodified)
    GCM / ATM: 5,643 kg (Unmodified)
    Front axle group rating: 1,665 kg (Unmodified)
    Rear axle group rating: 1,592 kg (Unmodified)

    The "modified" status for the Tare Mass is due to the Eastern Wheelworks wheels fitted with 315/75 R16 tyres. The Tare Mass was taken directly from a weighbridge result sheet also in my files on the 101.

    You're welcome to borrow the certificate if it helps. I guess it's pretty specific to my vehicle but is from a credited engineer.
    Hi John,
    The 3143kg is written in the user manual, so I should be able to get them to lift it to at least that.
    I cannot find any thing anywhere that mentions the 3643kg that is on Stu's and Simons plates, and even the plates still call it a one tonner so it's all very confusing.
    The good news is I've fitted new spark plugs and dizzy cap and it's running realy well, the front side light was a bad connection. But I think I'm going to re wire the back lights as I have some odd voltage readings.
    Hopefully I can get it back to the pits this week.
    By the way John they never even looked at the rubber flares so I don't need to extend them any more
    Cheers
    ian

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    Quote Originally Posted by garrycol View Post
    As Ron as mentioned all the Aussie 101s were 1.5 tonners but as far as I am aware when the 101 GS was introduced into the Brit Military they were 1 tonners hence the manuals show them as having a 1 tonne load capacity.

    BUT much later I believe the Brits upgraded their 101 GS to carry 1.5 tonnes. By upgraded they just changed the plates - after all the later Brit 101s and our 101s are the same spec.

    This aspect might be worthwhile looking at and docs obtained from the UK.

    Garry
    Hi Garry,
    There just doesn't seem to be anything to back this up other than the stamped and printed plates
    Google has let us down
    Cheers
    Ian

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    I can only suggest the 101 club or maybe AJ in Melbourne can help.

    Cheers

    Garry
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    2007 Range Rover Sport TDV6
    1977 FC 101
    1976 Jaguar XJ12C
    1973 Haflinger AP700
    1971 Jaguar V12 E-Type Series 3 Roadster
    1957 Series 1 88"
    1957 Series 1 88" Station Wagon

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brute View Post
    While the chap was doing the inspection another guy came over and said, I had one of these last week, just check the rims aren`t rubbing on the calliper . I had a bit of a chat with him about Stuees, and he had nothing but praise for the work Stu has done to his.
    I hope you didnt mention you dont have disc brake callipers to rub

    Did you have to get an ADR report too??

    Can you show evidence of the re-rate plates on other 101's as proof of the higher limits?

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    Quote Originally Posted by stuee View Post
    I hope you didnt mention you dont have disc brake callipers to rub

    Did you have to get an ADR report too??

    Can you show evidence of the re-rate plates on other 101's as proof of the higher limits?
    Just told them mine was the drum brake model
    Didn't ask for an add report what do you have to do for that?
    I will take photos of the plates and some stuff of the net when I go back and see what they say.

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