Puma Clutch Death Rattle Again

**Allan** · 30th June 2010, 09:35 AM

Originally Posted by TimNZ

Hi Allan, My 110 is on it's 3rd clutch, when the dealer fitted it they told me it was a 3rd generation one, (I do, however, take what they tell me with a grain of salt). On a brighter note I have done over 50,000k's on it, with no sign of the "death rattle", so perhaps they have sorted the problems.

Cheers,

Thanks Tim, do you or anyone else know if the rattle is from the pressure plate or the clutch plate centre springs. Glad to hear your clutch seems to be cured, I can hold out hope for mine

Allan

**dullbird** · 30th June 2010, 10:12 AM

in all honesty Allan if the clutch is all you have to worry about your on a winner...

perhaps you should fly over to Sydney and come and drive a real bag of ****

..I wish I only had a clutch to worry about

**Allan** · 30th June 2010, 10:25 AM

Originally Posted by dullbird

in all honesty Allan if the clutch is all you have to worry about your on a winner...

perhaps you should fly over to Sydney and come and drive a real bag of ****

..I wish I only had a clutch to worry about

I would have to fly, or drive the 90, as I don' think the Puma would last the distance

Allan

**dullbird** · 30th June 2010, 10:43 AM

Originally Posted by Allan

I would have to fly, or drive the 90, as I don' think the Puma would last the distance

Allan

my thoughts exactly

**incisor** · 30th June 2010, 10:47 AM

really and truly is time "effective" lemon laws were introduced

the fact that at least 3 big players in the market space are having this level of difficulty getting something reliable to the pavement definitely is a worrying trend and must constitute an abuse of market power.

glad i didn't sell my soul to get one like i was contemplating.

**dullbird** · 30th June 2010, 10:52 AM

Dave there are many out there that are going strong without problems...unfortunately there are also some out there like mine well, I will let you make up the rest of the story.

I am however strongly convinced that when the troubles are fixed it will be an awesome car and will go on for a long time...

and for everyone that slags off the ford engine.....its not the engine that is giving everyone dramas...in fact since my faulty engine was replaced it has been the most reliable thing on the car (touch wood

)

**justinc** · 30th June 2010, 11:27 AM

Originally Posted by dullbird

Dave there are many out there that are going strong without problems...unfortunately there are also some out there like mine well, I will let you make up the rest of the story.

I am however strongly convinced that when the troubles are fixed it will be an awesome car and will go on for a long time...
and for everyone that slags off the ford engine.....its not the engine that is giving everyone dramas...in fact since my faulty engine was replaced it has been the most reliable thing on the car (touch wood

)

Agree DB, every time I drive one I want one

JC

**pc3** · 30th June 2010, 12:20 PM

Originally Posted by justinc

Agree DB, every time I drive one I want one

JC

Its sad really...............as these PUMAS if there is no issues are THAT good to drive. I have had a New Triton Dual cab for work these past couple of days.....did 500 kms aprox in it. Its not a patch on the PUMA 130 dual cab as far as comfort and ride goes, the Defenders really are nice for your back !!

I will say the Triton motor goes like the clappers. BUT it felt cheap, the dash is not as attractive, it has HEAPS of rattles and squeaks (49,000km on the clock)

It does not feel as HEAVY DUTY as the PUMA feels, lots of knick knacks and buttons etc. but it felt kind of loose to drive.

Also it really was a boreing car to drive, and does not feel like a 4x4 at all.

Point I am getting too is the new PUMA Defender is a GREAT concept, correct mix of modern ammentities and offroad capabilities, its a shame about the execution. Just hope I dont get too many dramas with mine, I dont want to send it down the river cause I love it.................but it needs to be reliable !!

**Allan** · 30th June 2010, 12:35 PM

Originally Posted by dullbird

Dave there are many out there that are going strong without problems...unfortunately there are also some out there like mine well, I will let you make up the rest of the story.

I am however strongly convinced that when the troubles are fixed it will be an awesome car and will go on for a long time...

and for everyone that slags off the ford engine.....its not the engine that is giving everyone dramas...in fact since my faulty engine was replaced it has been the most reliable thing on the car (touch wood

)

I don't have a problem with the engine, goes very well pulls hard and considering its pushing 1 and 2/3 very large house bricks through the air, very light on fuel. I still can't work out why their is a clutch/gearbox problem on a powetrain combination used in a Transit van, a vehicle with a good reputation. I have no other issues with the Puma, its a Defender, they all have had Monday build issues. But saying that this is the only Land Rover to need 3 clutches I have ever owned and its only done 19000km"s in 18 months

Allan

**TimNZ** · 30th June 2010, 01:51 PM

Originally Posted by Allan

Thanks Tim, do you or anyone else know if the rattle is from the pressure plate or the clutch plate centre springs. Glad to hear your clutch seems to be cured, I can hold out hope for mine

Allan

Hi Allan, in both cases it was the anti-rattle springs in the clutch plate. (Kind of ironic since the anti-rattle springs caused the rattle). They were so loose you could have pushed them out of the clutch plate with your thumb.

The dealer even said they couldn't accuse me of being hard on the clutch, as there was no signs of wear on the pressure plate, friction material, or the flywheel. If they are going to change your clutch, see if you can convince them to do the thrust bearing at the same time, since you've had so much trouble, etc, etc

Cheers,

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