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    Can the 6 speed gear box stay ? What would that conversion cost using the 6 speed in it ? You happy with the transit motor or ideally change that too ?

    I love the driving position and dash of the puma.

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    I don't see why not, way cheaper than an auto conversion, I mentioned that to eliminate the clutch issues
    Next one I take a look at I'll pay close attention to where the TF attaches to the trans, IIRC they looked the same as the old R380 to LT230 pattern.
    In a 130, the salisbury diff conversion is even simpler/ cheaper as ABS isn't there Just shorten the tailshaft and Voila.

    Costs, not all that much actually. For example a good LOW km D1 T/Fer case can be had for way less than 1K, a Late (Up to 2002) Sals diff in good order EX 110/ 130 could be as cheap as $1000 without ABS, about $500 more or so with ABS sensors etc. Tailshaft Mods about $100.

    Easy peasy

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    The Isuzu 110. Solid and as dependable as a rock, coming soon with auto box😊
    The Range Rover L322 4.4.TTDV8 ....probably won't bother with the remap..😈

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    Quote Originally Posted by pc3 View Post
    Can the 6 speed gear box stay ? What would that conversion cost using the 6 speed in it ? You happy with the transit motor or ideally change that too ?

    I love the driving position and dash of the puma.

    we've had the gboxs drop 6th, lock in 2end, and they rattle and clunk like nothing,, and iv herd a few reports when in syd they theyv been having trouble with they lock up all together as the detents drop out
    but certenly the week point is the clutch,

    r380 6speed is my dream

    hate to say itbut the engine themselves have been slightly improved over the yrs its been out, its manly drive train probs, altho there are a few egrs and turbos popping up every now and then, haven't done one yet but there is a overlay harness to be made for certain faults with the VNT as its the dodgy wiring causing probs

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    Quote Originally Posted by justinc View Post
    I don't see why not, way cheaper than an auto conversion, I mentioned that to eliminate the clutch issues
    Next one I take a look at I'll pay close attention to where the TF attaches to the trans, IIRC they looked the same as the old R380 to LT230 pattern.
    In a 130, the salisbury diff conversion is even simpler/ cheaper as ABS isn't there Just shorten the tailshaft and Voila.

    Costs, not all that much actually. For example a good LOW km D1 T/Fer case can be had for way less than 1K, a Late (Up to 2002) Sals diff in good order EX 110/ 130 could be as cheap as $1000 without ABS, about $500 more or so with ABS sensors etc. Tailshaft Mods about $100.

    Easy peasy

    JC
    Justin I'm thinking one might be better sticking with there Pumas and just changing the bits to superior parts after warranty. Can one buy a brand new Salisbury diff ? This would be more economical than giving up your new car after a couple of years.

    What diesel motor could be dropped into a puma that had more grunt ? I'm just imagining what the ultimate "full conversion" could be

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    Quote Originally Posted by pc3 View Post
    Justin I'm thinking one might be better sticking with there Pumas and just changing the bits to superior parts after warranty. Can one buy a brand new Salisbury diff ? This would be more economical than giving up your new car after a couple of years.

    What diesel motor could be dropped into a puma that had more grunt ? I'm just imagining what the ultimate "full conversion" could be
    tdv8 conversion (18k for motor assembly) ecm not included)
    behind zf 900nm 7 speed, (9k)

    running portal suls front and rear

    its hard to say realy,, its all comes down to cost realy

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    TDV8's too wide for the chassis rails apparently However, the disco TDV6 3.0 with the disco manual 6 speed would keep me happy Just the rest of the drive line to worry about..... wonder if a defer body would fit on a LR3/4 chassis......

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    Quote Originally Posted by TimNZ View Post
    TDV8's too wide for the chassis rails apparently However, the disco TDV6 3.0 with the disco manual 6 speed would keep me happy Just the rest of the drive line to worry about..... wonder if a defer body would fit on a LR3/4 chassis......
    ohhh yer 3L

    cheaper rego to, haha

    anything is possible if you throw enough money at it,, theres a 90 in uk running a tdv6 and another running a tdv8,

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    So why not buy a D3 if the Defender is so bad. When I turned spanners for a living, long before becoming a mental Health Nurse, Ford Escorts were winning races all around the world. At this time I spent 5-6 hours a day changing clutch plates with the same problem as the Puma has. Ford also at that time replaced gearboxes by the thousends in British Fords. I still think the problem with the transmission will be fixed as they were then. Why own a Defender if all you want is a D3 or RR V8 sport clone. Other than the clutch problem I find my Puma to be the best 4x4 I've driven under most conditions. Yes my wifes 90 is perhaps a little better of road - depends, but all round no standerd TD5 or for that matter I think any other standard 4x4, maybe I forgot the Toyota v8 Diesal, could compare with the Puma both off or on road. Yes it has its problems but, though last night I had thoughts of selling it, after driving it again today---------ah what can you do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Allan View Post
    So why not buy a D3 if the Defender is so bad. When I turned spanners for a living, long before becoming a mental Health Nurse, Ford Escorts were winning races all around the world. At this time I spent 5-6 hours a day changing clutch plates with the same problem as the Puma has. Ford also at that time replaced gearboxes by the thousends in British Fords. I still think the problem with the transmission will be fixed as they were then. Why own a Defender if all you want is a D3 or RR V8 sport clone. Other than the clutch problem I find my Puma to be the best 4x4 I've driven under most conditions. Yes my wifes 90 is perhaps a little better of road - depends, but all round no standerd TD5 or for that matter I think any other standard 4x4, maybe I forgot the Toyota v8 Diesal, could compare with the Puma both off or on road. Yes it has its problems but, though last night I had thoughts of selling it, after driving it again today---------ah what can you do.

    Allan
    yes that was a little off topic, i no toyota are having probs with there v8, and leaking dust, apparently the amount of complaints for leaking dust is getting up there with the defender

    so its not just landrover, but the thing that gets me is the defender is a extremely well established car, i can-not find another car that has lasted 60yrs like the defender has, and ford has killed it with trying to make it as cheap as possible, thats why so many people are getting stupid little faults with cars, and once they start they dont stop,, its one after another

    wile under warranty its just annoying that there's probs with your car, but once its out of warranty??? and it will have most likely over 100k on it, and its getting this probs at 20k??

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    Quote Originally Posted by stig0000 View Post
    ............ i can-not find another car that has lasted 60yrs like the defender has,.........
    The Defender has not lasted sixty years.

    The Defender has been in production for twenty years, with its 90/110 predecessor really the same, so you can say it has actually lasted for twenty-six years.

    The overall shape and dimensions go back to the Series 2 in 1958, but the chassis, suspension and layout owe their origin to the Rangerover in 1970, which is only takes you back forty years.

    Going back to the first Landrover in 1948 is only the concept, and using this to say the Defender has lasted sixty years makes about as much sense as considering the current Holden Commodore as being the same as the 1948 Holden.

    But twenty-six years of production is still a respectable life, compared, for example, to the Series 2/3 which was about the same, or the VW beetle and Citroen 2CV about fifty years. Both of these retained the same styling for fifty years, about the same as the Defender has, even though in the case of both the Defender and beetle it was only styling and basic concept.

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