Thread: Best Engine Oil For Puma

If you look at these oil specs, if your 2.2 Puma does NOT have a DPF fitted you can use the oil used in the 2.4.
This brand probably is not available in your country but the specs will be of use.
The oil for the 2.2 NON DPF and the 2.4 meetFord C/D spec. The "D" spec is new to me.
Spec sheet for oil for Puma 2.2 with DPF
http://www.championlubes.com/TDS/tds_65605...018_lr.pdf
Spec sheet for oil for Puma 2.2 without DPF
http://www.championlubes.com/TDS/tds_65609...158_lr.pdf
Spec sheet for oil for Puma 2.4
http://www.championlubes.com/TDS/tds_65609...158_lr.pdf
Seems that if you live in a country where your new 2.2 Puma does not have a DPF fitted you can use the oil used for the 2.4.
Might be of use to someone.

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Oil specs for 2.2 with DPF and 2.2 with NO DPF.
Defender2 - View topic - Oil specs for 2.2 and 2.2 non DPF
Tried to put up direct links but they would not work but you can get them on the above Defender2 link.

Originally Posted by spudfan

If you look at these oil specs, if your 2.2 Puma does NOT have a DPF fitted you can use the oil used in the 2.4.
This brand probably is not available in your country but the specs will be of use.
The oil for the 2.2 NON DPF and the 2.4 meetFord C/D spec. The "D" spec is new to me.
Spec sheet for oil for Puma 2.2 with DPF
http://www.championlubes.com/TDS/tds_65605...018_lr.pdf
Spec sheet for oil for Puma 2.2 without DPF
http://www.championlubes.com/TDS/tds_65609...158_lr.pdf
Spec sheet for oil for Puma 2.4
http://www.championlubes.com/TDS/tds_65609...158_lr.pdf
Seems that if you live in a country where your new 2.2 Puma does not have a DPF fitted you can use the oil used for the 2.4.
Might be of use to someone.

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Links no worky?

Originally Posted by n plus one

Links no worky?

Yes sorry about that, but you can access them via my second post and get them via a link on Defender2.net. Just click on the link on the second post here
Defender2 - View topic - Oil specs for 2.2 and 2.2 non DPF

I've just got a price from Supacrap for this Edge Professional A5 5W-30 at $524.50 per drum and you've got to buy 2 of them at a time!!!!!
This works out at around 174 bucks per service if doing it at 10K which I have been doing.
What are others paying around Oz for this stuff.
Cheers.
Alan.

Got another price from Supacrap for Magnatec Professional A5 $345 per 20 ltrs.
That sounded better so I went to order it this morning ......half an hour later I walk out as they keep putting me to the back of the queue/answering the phone or talking to each other as I'm obviously not worth bothering about for a lousy 690 bucks.
Castrol gave me several names as dealers to try so off I went before trying Supacrap. Covs (Coventry) just laughed and said they'd order it but I'd have to wait until they had orders for 6 drums so it could take a year or so.
Repco couldn't be bothered at all...."just get something off the shelf, not worth us ordering it".
When at Supacrap they phoned Castrol and the price to them was 176 dollars!!!!!!
Cost to the public $345 so not a bad mark up at nearly 100%.
I can't be bothered with this any more, it's just a sodding Ford engine so why is it so hard to buy the right oil for it?
Gonna be another poxy Puma on carsales.com soon....
AlanH.

Originally Posted by rick130

Dave, the low SAPS oils are definitely needed for the DPF, (generally sulphated ash <800PPM) and the SAPS levels in car diesels with DPF are far below what is considered low SAPS in heavy duty diesels too, where low SAPS is 1000PPM or below


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It's a PITA as I have a perfectly good ACEA E4/E6/E9 low SAPS HD diesel oil here in bulk but its <1000PPM SA and the HTHS is a nice, robust 4......

I assume it is because (a) the sulphur promotes particulate formation and (b) it poisons the catalyst used in the DPF.

Diesel soot on its own won't burn in air until ~550oC - which is above the EGT immediately post turbo that these engines should be running!
DPFs have catalysts which reduce the temperature to ~300-350oC. Poison the catalyst and your soot won't burn off the DPF unless you are running crazy EGTs...

Originally Posted by isuzurover

I assume it is because (a) the sulphur promotes particulate formation and (b) it poisons the catalyst used in the DPF.

Diesel soot on its own won't burn in air until ~550oC - which is above the EGT immediately post turbo that these engines should be running!
DPFs have catalysts which reduce the temperature to ~300-350oC. Poison the catalyst and your soot won't burn off the DPF unless you are running crazy EGTs...

Bit the heavy duty diesels also use a DPF, it's obviously much, much larger.
The car oils are often also often friction modified, I know the PSA one is.
What I can't quite work out are the very different oil specs between the Ford and PSA versions of the same engine though.