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    Quote Originally Posted by 460cixy View Post
    Got a pic of the seals?
    Post #36......that would be 4 posts above yours. The 2 small ones are the rears (1 each caliper) the 4 cylinder type are the fronts (2 each caliper) The fronts have a small metal/copper??? tube inside them.

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    Found some info on the interweb. Funnily enough from the guys I have just recieved some parts from..DOH

    after very-nearing my used seals, im coming up with:

    Rears: RTC1137

    Shop 4 Auto Parts | CALIPER GALLERY SEAL 15*3 RTC1137

    Fronts: 3851-739

    Shop 4 Auto Parts | CALIPER GALLERY SEAL 12,6*13,4 3851-739

    Now if you look at my pic, the front seals have a little tube (metal/copper?) inside them. The pic from the link shows just the outer rubber. Does anyone know if Im ment to reuse the hard tube inner?

    I have shot them an email. I will report what I find.

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    Local Land Rover dealer has no listing of the above part numbers. He could only find part# 17H8764L (after pulling up the piston seal kits and me having to say "no they are piston seal kits....yes im 100% sure, I have both genuine LR kits in my hand right now") . I told him that 17H8764L was indeed a gallery seal, but not the correct one. His response was there was no way to know without the Vin. I questioned how that is possible if thy only have one listed yet there are 3 different types......"looks like we cant help you then"


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    Well I better open my eyes better next time I thought they were pistons some have a black coating and i never took a whole lot of notice my mistake so its got normal seals plus these Shop 4 Auto Parts | CALIPER GALLERY SEAL 12,6*13,4 3851-739 I have not seen these before but if there's a copper tube inside I would guess you re use this . I take it there calipers for a solid disc with a spacer to suit vented discs . There are ppl offering these conversions they may be able to help with these seals

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    I think the spacer is original fittment. I got an answer on another forum to pop out and reuse the tube inside the gallery seal. I will have a closer look at the calipers mounted to my truck in the morning. They are definitely original fittment. I will be placeing an order for the seals tomorrow. Ill probably buy a few sets to have some spares. I hate having to chase up simple stuff like this. The reason the above shop doesnt supply them with a piston/caliper kit is because there are so many combinations due to LR changes. So you could have same pistons/different gallery seals etc.

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    What a pain in the arse. Any chance of some pics of the caliper halves and said spacer

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    hey I thought you were the brake pro

    Looked under my LR today. Original fittment calipers, original fittment vented rotors. Calipers definitely have the spacer in them.

    Caliper halves plus spacer. Spacer is same profile etc both sides:



    Caliper loosly bolted together, showing spacers inbetween:



    Gallery seal with inner tube removed:

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    Well I can say I have seen nothing like that arrangement before normally if there's spacers like that the calliper halves will just have the recesses for the seals and the spacer sandwiched in the middle have not come across that tube&seal thing before. Only land Rover and Lockheed could come up with something like that. At least the rears are simple

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    One half of the caliper has the recess. My guess is they (lockheed) just used the existing casting, added the spacer and designed the seal to suit. Economy of reusing existing tooling.

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    On other calipers with spacers the holes much smaller in the spacer negating the need for that extra funny seal go well we live and learn. I'm going to make a wild assumption and guess the calipers for the solid disc has no spacers

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