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Thread: Was there a Nissan 2.7 TD in a 110?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pinelli View Post
    A TD27 is a TD27 is a TD27. They were put in Navaras and Pathfinders and a few others I think, in Australia. In the Terrano (Jap grey import), they also had a turbo attached, making it a TD27T (Nissan engine naming conventions are pretty simple). The engines are all the same, and if you have a non-turbo, you can bolt on a range of turbos if you get the right exhaust maninfold.
    The Terrano was actually sold new in Aust for a short period of time.

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    the electronic ip models ran different more expensive injectors. the mech ip models were gloriously 'dirty' and not all that powerful. i certainly wouldn't be swapping out a tdi for one....


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    Thanks for all of your thoughts.

    The 'watchdog' alarm is certainly something I should have used. I agree that I can do better in bullet proofing the radiator hoses etc, but I still maintain that they should be able to withstand a little more heat before doing major damage. One engine lost coolant and the other did a bearing in the turbo (supposed to have been rebuilt). My problem is that I only buy well used ones and assume that the previous owners tell the truth...

    OK, so maybe I will just go and buy a cheap Landcruiser with a 4L engine and see whether they are more robust for my neglectful purposes. (and install a watchdog)

    Thanks again for all of your helpful comments.
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    Toyota engines are no different - you neglect them and they die. If you have a crap cooling system on them and continue to run them when they are hot then you will have the same issues as you did with the TDI.

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    The Nissan TD27T is a great little engine.

    I put 350,000 kms on one, no worries.

    A mate of mine has 400,000 km on his and regularly runs it on a mix of used ENGINE oil and paraffin..........

    The Terrano I motor was mechanical IP and vacuum pump off the alternator as mentioned.

    Turbo oil feed pipes tend to be an issue after around 250,000km so get them replaced with good braided hi pressure stuff.

    Remember it's an IDI, so while quiet, has the combustion chamber worries. Although I never had any issues.

    My engine only expired when an offspring check & topped up the engine oil and neglected to replace the filler cap.......subsequent loss of lubricant wasn't the engine's fault and it still ran for quite a while afterwards.

    Jap/Singapore low kilo imports are cheap.

    Have the turbo replaced, add an IC and tweak the pump and I reckon you're good for around 85kW with very little stress.

    Other engines on my list would be the isuzu 4JB1T and the Mazda WL25.

    An EGT and coolant alarm is mandatory for all TD engines.........

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    Terrano II sold in OZ was spanish and is a little different.
    the jap version was minstral.

    WD21 are pathfinder/terrano

    engine are good.my mate has photos of pathfinders badged rangerover in switzerland new car dealer.

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    The problems with the TD27.

    The idi combustion isn't clean, they smoke a fair bit and they also soot up their oil. Oil change costs become a significant running cost.
    They aren't efficient at all. As well as using more fuel than a 4BD1T, they don't produce much power or torque for their capacity and boost.

    They have bugger all power and torque. Yes you can hop them up, more boost, better turbos etc. But they need a lot more boost and fuel to make power than direct injection engines do.

    Honestly I'd take a ZD30 over a TD27 every day. Direct injection, very strong engines and good efficiency too.
    The YD25 is also a very good motor if you get the double row timing chain version. It should be possible to fit a mechanical VE injection pump to a ZD30 or YD25. Stock is the electronically managed VP44 rotary injection pump.

    My work car runs a turbo YD22.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dougal View Post
    The problems with the TD27.

    The idi combustion isn't clean, they smoke a fair bit and they also soot up their oil. Oil change costs become a significant running cost.
    They aren't efficient at all. As well as using more fuel than a 4BD1T, they don't produce much power or torque for their capacity and boost.

    They have bugger all power and torque. Yes you can hop them up, more boost, better turbos etc. But they need a lot more boost and fuel to make power than direct injection engines do.

    Honestly I'd take a ZD30 over a TD27 every day. Direct injection, very strong engines and good efficiency too.
    The YD25 is also a very good motor if you get the double row timing chain version. It should be possible to fit a mechanical VE injection pump to a ZD30 or YD25. Stock is the electronically managed VP44 rotary injection pump.

    My work car runs a turbo YD22.
    Good points, Dougal, but what's the cost of finding a Bosch VE mechanical IP that will match the injectors and required flow rate, then getting a crank / cam gear made up, as well as a cover etc etc, not as easy as you seem to imply.
    I'd rather then use a 4JB1T isuzu and know what I'm getting.

    5L of oil every 5000km isn't that much money. Delo 400 is only what, $20 for 5L ?????

    Hardbly going to break the bank.

    I stand by my statement that the TD27T is a fair option for a low cost.

    Sure, go 4BD1T but then you need the gearbox etc etc.

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    Of course a ZD30 is better than a TD27 - it's a much newer engine both in build and design, probably 20 years newer, and the YD25 is newer again.

    OP was asking about the TD27 because he happens to have one (I think) or can source one.

    Mind you, TD27s are reliable and will go forever and a day, and haven't aquired the nickname 'hand grenade'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pinelli View Post
    Of course a ZD30 is better than a TD27 - it's a much newer engine both in build and design, probably 20 years newer, and the YD25 is newer again.

    OP was asking about the TD27 because he happens to have one (I think) or can source one.

    Mind you, TD27s are reliable and will go forever and a day, and haven't aquired the nickname 'hand grenade'.
    The ZD30 is an evolution of the TD27.

    First was the TD27.
    Then the BD30, same bore, but direct injection.
    Then the ZD30, 4 valves per cylinder and electronic injection pump. It's the electronic injection having a bad day and massively overfuelling which caused the grenade reputation. I'd happily run one with boost and EGT gauges.
    Apparently they go really really well just prior to melt-down. A workmates fishing buddy blew his up while passing a whole line of cars and towing a boat.
    An EGT gauge would have given the "hey buddy, back off, this is hurting me" warning as soon as he planted foot.

    The YD25 is much older than the ZD30. It was first produced in 1998. It's a significantly more compact engine.

    Main point. I'd expect significant interchange between TD27, BD30 and ZD30 engine parts. The bores are identical.

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