Thread: Defender Puma 2.2 - voice your issues

Good question.

Originally Posted by Wolfman_TWP

My manual only states that the engine oil is SAE 5W-30, and that's all. Which was why I contacted Castrol directly. (This info is on page 115 of the Owner's Handbook.)

Wolf

Mine is the same: Just SAE 5W30.
It says LR recommend Castrol separately, but doesn't specify Castrol 5W30.

Originally Posted by MrLandy

Are you able to describe the difference between C1 and A5, AndyG, or anyone else?
Magnatec Professional A5 and Edge Professional A5?

As per that earlier post, from what i can work out the C1-5 oils are DPF friendly/mandatory and possibly more gentle on Catalytic devices. Their other attributes appear very similar to the A range, which are all subtlety different. That's my laymans read, and i guess it's easier for LR to nominate as few oil types as possible for their workshop, be it DPF or Catalytic Converter.

I Thought the Western Oil article above covered it pretty well and had the A's and C's nicely tabulated

Edit
A = Regular SAPS
C = Low SAPS
C1 meets A5 specs
Post #168

Originally Posted by Wolfman_TWP

My manual only states that the engine oil is SAE 5W-30, and that's all. Which was why I contacted Castrol directly. (This info is on page 115 of the Owner's Handbook.)

Wolf

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Here's the Lubricants and Fluids page from my owner's handbook. 2014 Defender. Interesting how many differences there are to yours Wolf.

According to this it appears that any SAE 5W-30 Engine Oil is ok. Everything else is branded 'or equivalent'. Not quite sure what all the fuss is about? Especially if no DPF engines in Australia is correct? The only underlying question to me is, will warranty be affected by home servicing even if lubricants as specified in owner's manual are used?

Interesting also to note: Gearbox to Transfer box extrnsion shaft is lubed with anti seize. Do earlier Puma Defender Owner's Manuals list this?

Originally Posted by MrLandy

Here's the Lubricants and Fluids page from my owner's handbook. 2014 Defender. Interesting how many differences there are to yours Wolf.

According to this it appears that any SAE 5W-30 Engine Oil is ok. Everything else is branded 'or equivalent'. Not quite sure what all the fuss is about? Especially if no DPF engines in Australia is correct? The only underlying question to me is, will warranty be affected by home servicing even if lubricants as specified in owner's manual are used?

Interesting also to note: Gearbox to Transfer box extrnsion shaft is lubed with anti seize. Do earlier Puma Defender Owner's Manuals list this?

Agree, if they only say SAE 5W 30 how can they complain A vs C etc
Pretty sure extension shaft bit is new? But HOW would you lubricate it ?
I would keep any receipts, but i imagine home servicing would not go down well, compared to trained/qualified mechanic

Originally Posted by AndyG

Agree, if they only say SAE 5W 30 how can they complain A vs C etc
Pretty sure extension shaft bit is new? But HOW would you lubricate it ?

Extension shaft lube is interesting, because reportedly they weren't coming lubed from factory - contributing to driveline clunk and eventually failure of shaft. If they are lubed now, perhaps shaft will last longer. You'd only re-lube if changing shaft or gearbox / transfer box out.

The LR handbook for my 2009 2.4 Puma says (p. 88): "Use only 5W-30 oil meeting Land Rover specification WSS - M2C913-B."
I bought some Penrite 5W 30 fully synthetic oil which says on the bottle it is OK for both DPF and non-DPF engines and used by VW, Audi, Porsche etc, but it doesn't mention LR and it doesn't state WSS-M2C913-B anywhere on the bottle, so now I'm unsure if I can use it to top up or not.
I just checked and the oil level is on full.



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Originally Posted by DiscoMick

The LR handbook for my 2009 2.4 Puma says (p. 88): "Use only 5W-30 oil meeting Land Rover specification WSS - M2C913-B."
I bought some Penrite 5W 30 fully synthetic oil which says on the bottle it is OK for both DPF and non-DPF engines and used by VW, Audi, Porsche etc, but it doesn't mention LR and it doesn't state WSS-M2C913-B anywhere on the bottle, so now I'm unsure if I can use it to top up or not.
I just checked and the oil level is on full.



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Going back to post 168, that appears to be A3 vs A1 spec, so exceeded the Ford spec, it all good