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    Quote Originally Posted by Damo89 View Post
    Funny you mention this. I picked up my 110SW in August and have noticed a lot of sand and dust comes in, especially through the bottom of the rear doors. I looked on here for after market door seals but heard the new genuine LR ones were the way to go. Considering mine have these seals already, is there anything else I can do to combat the sand and dust coming in?

    Also - just hit 5000km's - should I be looking at some kind of service? LR told me not to worry until 20,000km.
    The best way of stopping dust entry is

    1 - Never drive with your windows open - this creates a vacuum inside the cabin which will suck dust in.
    2 - Always have the fan going on flow through to pressurise the cabin. You can see how effective this is by running the fan on full - close all of the doors and windows and running a wet hand around the seams - you will feel the air pushed out. This is also a good way to find gaps in the seams that you can seal with Sikaflex.

    The dust coming through the rear doors may not actually be coming through the door aperture itself. There is a large seam caused by the rear seat box (where the seats sit) and the rear door frame - the angled part of the lower door frame, that is almost always unsealed on a Defender. If you are not keeping the cabin pressurised it will suck a lot of dust in there. Its also quite difficult to seal effectively.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Damo89 View Post
    Funny you mention this. I picked up my 110SW in August and have noticed a lot of sand and dust comes in, especially through the bottom of the rear doors. I looked on here for after market door seals but heard the new genuine LR ones were the way to go. Considering mine have these seals already, is there anything else I can do to combat the sand and dust coming in?

    Also - just hit 5000km's - should I be looking at some kind of service? LR told me not to worry until 20,000km.
    I did an oil change & general inspection because it was a fairly hard 5000 km, and i don't mind a change on a new engine. The LR dealer actually had me penciled in for a 10,000 kn service, despite the book saying 20,000 on non arduous road.
    90% of my dust came through the bottom of the rear door, i will have to check out Clark Rubber and put a second seal there to compress against the door.
    By all means get a Defender. If you get a good one, you'll be happy. If you get a bad one, you'll become a philosopher.
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    Clancy MY15 110 Defender

    Clancy's gone to Queensland Rovering, and we don't know where he are

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    As a prospective 90 buyer, this is the thread I've been looking for. Thanks everyone for sharing your not so nice experiences. I'll keep an eye on it.

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    + for the above

    I closed up the daylight gaps (or at least tried to) at the bottom of both the B and C pillars

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    Quote Originally Posted by PAT303 View Post
    Are you driving with the diff lock on?,I can't understand how you can have two failed T/C's in 12 months. Pat
    Only have the centre diff engaged when off the black top and on lose stuff. IE sand, mud etc. the first time the diff went was around the zigzag railway the last time was going up big red after leading a trip through the flinders and across the simpson. The truck ground to a halt 3/4 of the way up big red and popped out of the centre diff at which point I headed up big red the easy route. Then heading down the birdsville track all sorts of noises developed before the transfer case completely failed. I have always been very careful of engaging the centre diff only when needed and have been extremely blooming careful not to have it engaged when it shouldn't. According to the local Landy mechanic the 2.2s are prone to shoddy transfer cases. Once the warranty expires I'm looking for a better transfer case as all of my trips are remote and I can't afford to have the risk of it failing again, and again....

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    Smile MY12 110

    28 Aug 12 build 110 wagon 76, 000km
    Air con temp sensor replaced
    Warped Roof - My advice would be never to fit a roof rack as it limits flex and gives your warranty hell. I only use roof bars and keep it flexible up there. Put it down to a learning experience.
    Rear diff replaced after a whine was observed - was probably ok but.
    TC replaced after a rattle at 85 and 95 km/h in all gears at 74, 000 and leaking oil. A one off?
    Intercooler hose rubbed through
    Turbo hose popped off
    Rear door lock needs key
    Seat box rubber mould wearing through
    Heated windshield replaced due to defective elements
    Difflock adjusted
    Notchy 2nd gear change when cold

    Never let me down on any trip including through WA or NT trips. Done some heavy towing Melb-Darwin-Adelaide. Did notice on towing that on some long hills coolant temp rises quickly on the scan gauge yet the gauge never moved. Still on factory goodyear MTRs with about 5mm of tread. Don't stop at BP Wallam southbound - there is some electrical interference and you won't be able to start! Tow truck driver knew more than LR assist and gave me a nudge to the car park where it started to the surprise of a few patrol owners. I was happy I had heard about this issue before

    Would recommend independent servicing. On a corporate plan so am making use of the obvious cost savings. If I had my time again I would not haven taken it to a dealer and I have tried six around the country - although the alice springs dealer seemed ok when I visited with a 60, 000km oil change indicator that came on after a having just had a service at around 58, 000.

    Overall I am relatively happy. Biggest issues, apart from the TC failure, have been dealer inflicted.

    Yes I would buy again although Firenze Red appears to be replaced on MY15 models

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    Hi all,

    I had problems with my 2012 Defender 90, you can read the comments in the thread : Defender 90 (2012) Clutch / Gerar Box noise . After some haggling with the dealer they supposedly replaced the clutch and the noise described in thread was gone, what I noticed more than anything else though was the lack of tail shaft slop, that had also gone, I was absolutely stoked as that was really annoying. Trust me, if your getting this noise it's not your driving technique, I've been driving trucks for years and I think I know how to change gears, I'm unsure what work they actually carried out but they did do a bloody good job, I swear the gear box is as quiet as a conventional car gear box now, reckon my missus would even be okay driving it .
    I have never had any issues with vibrations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Defender90007 View Post
    Hi all,

    I had problems with my 2012 Defender 90, you can read the comments in the thread : Defender 90 (2012) Clutch / Gerar Box noise . After some haggling with the dealer they supposedly replaced the clutch and the noise described in thread was gone, what I noticed more than anything else though was the lack of tail shaft slop, that had also gone, I was absolutely stoked as that was really annoying. Trust me, if your getting this noise it's not your driving technique, I've been driving trucks for years and I think I know how to change gears, I'm unsure what work they actually carried out but they did do a bloody good job, I swear the gear box is as quiet as a conventional car gear box now, reckon my missus would even be okay driving it .
    I have never had any issues with vibrations.
    All my issues regarding backlash and gear changes seem to have been resolved also when my mechanic friend spotted a TC leak and told me to take it to Landrover. They never really told me what they did but they fixed the leak and the backlash and slop all but disappeared and my box is quite pleasant much like yours . Maybe they are not sure what they did either.

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    My first post here. I have a 14 defender 90. 2000 k's had a loose blanking plug in the gearbox. That was fixed by the dealer. At 4000 k's has a howl from diff? at 90 km/h. The dealer said keep an eye on it. Leaking front windscreen also fixed by the dealer. Also leaking into the cab from the fuel filler somewhere. Diff backlash. Check. Still love it best out of all the cars I've had.

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    Total driveline failure today

    Hi,

    Went for a cruise through the yarra state forest this morning in my 2012 defender 130 2.2 puma. 43000 clicks. This truck has been well looked after, serviced every 5k

    Turned up a graded forest road, moderately steep, in 4wd terms. Noticed a couple of significant heavy metal sounding clonks underneath around g/box region, maybe front diff region.

    About 4 ks further up the hill, driving at 40 ks, a loud bang, then total loss of drive. Tried forward, reverse, low range, centre diff lock in, still no drive, just a horrible graunching sound.

    Anyway abandoned truck and walked with family some 5k back to local and the publican took us all home.

    Phone call made and it is off to nearest local dealer for assessment and repair.

    Nothing under indicative of damage no escaped oil props hafts fine, suspect g/bOx mainshaft atm

    Will find out in due course I guess


    Clive

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