The "New" Defender,.....When?

**Dougal** · 23rd March 2014, 05:24 PM

Originally Posted by Rick Fischer

Hi Guys

Reckon yous all need to look at BMW Mini and Toyota LJ?? "cruiser".

Then look at RRC and the BMW RR.

BMW and Toyota didn't make them that way because they really wanted to; or the "stylists " reckoned they were better that way.

They are made the way they are because they have to "comply"

Adding the weight of "compliance" bits like airbags, side intrusion bars, pre-determined crumple rates etc etc and the list goes on ............... Oh and there is "survivable space". means more strength = weight to carry it all around; more motor, more gear box/s more brakes to stop it all ; and even more weight ................................and more and more compromises.

For those not in the know (mine) old Cooper S weighed 9cwt, ie 990 lbs. Wonder what a new "retro" Cooper weighs?

Would reckon a new "Landie" will possibly just keep sliding right. Making it to satisfy both you guys (me too) and the regulators may be just too hard.

Cheers

RF

L405 has lost weight compared to the last RRC's. The horrible toyota FJ cruiser is just a marketing exercise. It's a petrol prado with different panels.

**Dougal** · 23rd March 2014, 05:31 PM

Originally Posted by Bess

G'day Dougal
I just did a new Defender replacement search then images & troulled through to see what came up.

To be honest I am just curious if what we end up getting was ever leaked out before hand. I have to agree with Didge that the demands of the masses will circumvent anything like what we currently have ever being made again.

The current thinking appears to be fifty internal airbags, self parking, crush zones to make a coke can look strong & a pillow for any idiot that walks out in front of you.

God forbid you might fit a bulbar cause we all no that a 2/14 tonne vehicle travelling at 60kp/h will only kill you if that's fitted to it.

Oh we'll time will tell.
Regards Chris

Cheers I found it here from 2006: Ny Defender? - Defender Forum - LRforum
Translation from Norwegian:

.. visited the island rover in place and stumble across this picture .... supposedly from France, and maybe photoshop, but ...... a little funny anyway ..?

New Defender?

Didge · 23rd March 2014, 06:12 PM

I for one would be happy if the new Defender
1) didn't leak;
2) wasn't noisy
3) could accelerate like a D3/ 4
4) more more ergonomically suitable/ sensible - ie I don't have to lean forward to see out the side window and it was a lot easier to get in and out
5) had some airbags
6) still maintained the character we all love
7) oh, didn't leak oil as much as they do now
8) came with proper off road rubber instead of the silly road tyres D4's & RR wear.
9) had some built in recovery points and off road options like hidden snorkel built into a pillar, a winch mount (front and rear would be nice), side steps, some sort of bullbar, etc.
Not asking much eh?

Tombie · 23rd March 2014, 06:36 PM

actually it sounds like you just described a D4 with a couple of light mods

Didge · 23rd March 2014, 06:38 PM

You can relax a bit, I found a picture of it

Better buy a ladder as well
Someone on Defender2.net called this "the defender of my dreams"

**DasLandRoverMan** · 23rd March 2014, 08:07 PM

Proof -if any were needed- that money certainly can not buy taste.

**Dougal** · 24th March 2014, 06:12 AM

Originally Posted by Didge

You can relax a bit, I found a picture of it

Better buy a ladder as well
Someone on Defender2.net called this "the defender of my dreams"

Looks like it was magnetised and driven through a farm gate factory.

Didge · 24th March 2014, 07:33 AM

Originally Posted by Dougal

Looks like it was magnetised and driven through a farm gate factory.

Hahaha - yes, looks pretty ugly eh?

**Rick Fischer** · 25th March 2014, 05:52 PM

Is there a Landie under there?

**Rick Fischer** · 25th March 2014, 06:06 PM

Originally Posted by Dougal

L405 has lost weight compared to the last RRC's. The horrible toyota FJ cruiser is just a marketing exercise. It's a petrol prado with different panels.

Go back to First 2 door and first 4 door RRC ...... and yes the LJ is a marketing exercise, but if they could have built one like the old one they would have; Defender reason.

Did speak to LR engineer involved with Pirente, now a few years ago, they would have loved to build RRC replicas as they came in what?? 83 84 with modern fuel efficient engines, sell like hot cakes. Just can't!

Cheers

RF

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