Thread: Video comparison: Defender 110 vs Jeep Rubicon (1/2 hr vid)

The earlies did but im thinking more modern grand Cherokee in particular before they went IFS. Cheers.

I posted this in the thread talking about the same topic over on ausjeepoffroad.com

"For anyone that has driven both vehicles long term off road will admit, there is nothing between the two trucks.

In a stock form, as in not removing/moding the original roll over protection and with 4 people (two adults, 2 children), the JK unfortunately doesnt come close to the space available when compared to a Defender for remote travel.

One item people grossly under estimate is carry sufficient drinking water, especially in the event of something going wrong. In moderate warm conditions its not unrealistic for a person to drink 1lt of water a day, 4 people thats 4lts a day. hot to extreme conditions, again its not unreasonable to expect each person to drink anywhere from 1lt - 4lts a day, 4 people that 16lts a day, now thats close to a jerry can a day just in drinking water.

Adding two 45lt water tanks (one fits L/H rear inner, the other fits between the rear seats and cargo barrier (if installed) is an easy fit. Straight up you now have 90lts of water for drinking, bit of washing, vehicle needs. You can then add any additional water jerry cans if you feel the need.

Other straight of the shelf easy items to fit to a Defender.
*120lt fuel tank.
*Duel batteries fit in existing battery box.
*twin spare wheel carrier on rear.
*Solar panels on roof (twin or single).
*Cargo barrier.
*Large solar panel regulator fits under rear seat.
*A power distribution box will also fit under the rear seat.
*Single draw slider in rear (making the rear cargo area completely flat)
*Will engulf a large Engel or Waeco fridge and frezer.

When I did remote breakdown work I would often drive 600 - 1000kms and consume nothing more than 2 cans of coke, a mars bar and a half a pack of smokes, if I broke down I had 40lts of water, food for a day, and a carton of smokes :P"

The Defender is prolly the easiest 4x4 to add all of the above on very simply, and the Defender TDCi (puma) has the added advantage it has an engine, transmission, air con from a vehicle of this century.

Regards
Daz

own both cars travelled in both cars at the same destinations and i can say the jeep is a weekend car for short drives nothing to do with touring and if people wanna use them for that its only by choice they were never intended to be tourers that comparison was pure garbage if you want a car that climps and can be a touring vehicle buy a patrol

What is a climp?

Sounds painful

Originally Posted by DazzaTD5

I posted this in the thread talking about the same topic over on ausjeepoffroad.com

"For anyone that has driven both vehicles long term off road will admit, there is nothing between the two trucks.

In a stock form, as in not removing/moding the original roll over protection and with 4 people (two adults, 2 children), the JK unfortunately doesnt come close to the space available when compared to a Defender for remote travel.

One item people grossly under estimate is carry sufficient drinking water, especially in the event of something going wrong. In moderate warm conditions its not unrealistic for a person to drink 1lt of water a day, 4 people thats 4lts a day. hot to extreme conditions, again its not unreasonable to expect each person to drink anywhere from 1lt - 4lts a day, 4 people that 16lts a day, now thats close to a jerry can a day just in drinking water.

Adding two 45lt water tanks (one fits L/H rear inner, the other fits between the rear seats and cargo barrier (if installed) is an easy fit. Straight up you now have 90lts of water for drinking, bit of washing, vehicle needs. You can then add any additional water jerry cans if you feel the need.

Other straight of the shelf easy items to fit to a Defender.
*120lt fuel tank.
*Duel batteries fit in existing battery box.
*twin spare wheel carrier on rear.
*Solar panels on roof (twin or single).
*Cargo barrier.
*Large solar panel regulator fits under rear seat.
*A power distribution box will also fit under the rear seat.
*Single draw slider in rear (making the rear cargo area completely flat)
*Will engulf a large Engel or Waeco fridge and frezer.

When I did remote breakdown work I would often drive 600 - 1000kms and consume nothing more than 2 cans of coke, a mars bar and a half a pack of smokes, if I broke down I had 40lts of water, food for a day, and a carton of smokes :P"

The Defender is prolly the easiest 4x4 to add all of the above on very simply, and the Defender TDCi (puma) has the added advantage it has an engine, transmission, air con from a vehicle of this century.

Regards
Daz

That pretty much sums up my plans for our Defender. The two water tanks from Boab are particularly important and it appears easy to fit.
One thing I might add to your list is a 40 litre fuel tank behind the filler on the driver's side rear above the 110 litre tank in mine, gravity feeding down to the main tank, giving a total of 150 litres.
A flat roof rack is also planned.
My second battery (an AGM laid on its side) is in the rear drawers behind the drawer in a compartment with a lift off lid. The solar controller can go there too when I put a panel on the roof rack.
Add front LR HD coils from a 130 to compensate for the weight of the bulbar and winch, and possibly rear airbags, and I'm away.


The Jeep just seems too cramped inside compared with the 110 and it can't tow enough to be very useful.

Follow up video :

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RnE0d1HKzdo[/ame]

I annoyingly cant watch any of the vids as due to my location I only have wireless and a very slow 8 gig which we use most of in a normal month for normal internet usage.. Really a pity as the missus wants a Jeep Wrangler, I cant sell her on another Defender sadly.. Oh well when I find my work ute 300tdi I will at least have two Landies to drive.
Anyway I would have loved to let her watch the vids all the same I to be honest would have been very interested too.. I will though follow this thread with interest.
Chris