2.2 puma 130 engine failure

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Originally Posted by Arch

Sorry about this being my first post but I been lurking on the forum for a couple of years now. I'm a Toyota owner and mechanic looking to eventually make to leap to a Defender... eventually

Long story short - avoid remanufactured injectors at all costs. Instead get genuine and new Denso products - they aren't that expensive these days. There is plenty of experience on this topic from the Hilux, Prado and Cruise D4D engines.

Regards
Arch

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No chance,I want them to be right,as in original spec right,not Denso close enough right. Pat

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Originally Posted by PAT303

No chance,I want them to be right,as in original spec right,not Denso close enough right. Pat

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Don't Bosch make injectors

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Originally Posted by Marty90

Don't Bosch make injectors

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Denso make Bosch pumps/injectors under license,without Bosch's quality control.That is why I would prefer reconditioned blue printed ones from Bailey's as an example. Pat

I just checked, the Puma 2.2 has the Siemens injectors https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/im...018/04/114.jpg

When did they change?. Pat

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Originally Posted by PAT303

No chance,I want them to be right,as in original spec right,not Denso close enough right. Pat

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All brands have problems and this is often made worse by user error. My point is - just stay away from remanufactured injectors. Get new injectors, no matter what the brand.

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Originally Posted by afb

I just checked, the Puma 2.2 has the Siemens injectors https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/im...018/04/114.jpg

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Baileys Diesel Group sells Denso injectors for Transit/LR 2.2 and 2.4. And sells Siemens for Ranger/BT50 2.2. Not sure if they are interchangeable.

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Originally Posted by MLD

Baileys Diesel Group sells Denso injectors for Transit/LR 2.2 and 2.4. And sells Siemens for Ranger/BT50 2.2. Not sure if they are interchangeable.

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That’s right, the part number for the Siemens Puma injectors matches the Rangers.

I had cause to speak with Baileys Diesel today. According to BD the siemans injector from the Ranger 2.2 is not interchangeable with the Denso injector from the Puma 2.2 without reprogramming the ECU to "see" the siemans injector. It is possible that LR built the 2.2 with a siemans injector and owners would have to check to see which is used.

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Originally Posted by MLD

I had cause to speak with Baileys Diesel today. According to BD the siemans injector from the Ranger 2.2 is not interchangeable with the Denso injector from the Puma 2.2 without reprogramming the ECU to "see" the siemans injector. It is possible that LR built the 2.2 with a siemans injector and owners would have to check to see which is used.

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So how to check if the injectors are Siemens or Denso?

All I see is fomoco hehe...

I just wonder, there must be people running these engines commercially and how would they manage there? Do they check and recondition injectors every 100k?

Cheers