Thread: Defenders on "Car Sales."

Well I like my defender too but decided not to go to Uluru with wife and two 6ft teenagers. It would have been extremely uncomfortable. Instead we are going to Greece in September.
We drove to Sydney last week for a couple of days with our other SUV, VW and enjoyed the quietness and comfort but still keeping the defender for weekend adventures.

Originally Posted by Andrew86

.....The D4 is longer, significantly wider and half a tonne heavier (than a 110). I wouldn't call that urban friendly. For reference, a 110 is only 20cms longer than a Ford Focus, and it's narrow track and corner-to-corner visibility makes it a breeze around town. The only real downside is the turning circle. .....

The D4 is 44mm longer than a 110. It's 263mm wider than the 110. You use the word "significantly" to describe the 263mm difference in width, but use the word "only" to describe a 200mm length difference between the 110 and a Focus.

I think Andrew86 & MrLandy are the same person

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We're hooking up the Camper to the Defender and taking it to Digger country Friday for the Dirt Wars Obstacle race this weekend.

Why the Defender not the D4?

Well because we can, it will be fun to take the 90 with Camper in tow for a change and to see just how well it goes with it on the back.

Only catch is we will need to watch fuel as the 90 has only got its stock tank at the moment..

The other benefit is the 90 has a fuel card

A Defender is 13% narrower than a D4, quite a significant percentage
A Defender is only 5% longer than a Focus sedan, and in fact just a bee's .... , or 1% longer than a focus wagon

My other half and I had a very late model top of the range SUV and called it the Limo. Gradually I got disenchanted by it though it had everything and drove like a dream. It was so disengaging to drive, it was point and shoot! So after driving the Perentie in the army we bought a 2014 Defender 90, which was lovely but bouncy ha ha. Now we are the proud owners of a 2016 Defender 110 which is my daily driver and I love it! It's great to be back in a manual, sitting high, got that on road presence etc always looking at finding an excuse to drive it and revert back to actually driving and parking a car/truck again without artificial aids!

They are fun to drive, I too enjoyed driving it, short distances or dirt tracks, it was the times when you have been away, chased after kids a whole weekend, had no sleep and then you have to drive 4-5 hrs back to Sydney in traffic. Talk about testing.
Or you have just worked a 20hr day on your feet the whole day with no lunch breaks pushing around machinery, then having to drive over an hour home. Believe me the Defender is not so fun and quirky then, it makes you want to plow it into a brick wall. Last thing you want to do is change gears 440 times before you get home
Those times you feel like your driving a closed cab John Deer home.

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Originally Posted by Babs

Defenders are great they're Iconic, quirky, different practical and on and on and on with their good points but don't tell me they're more comfortable to drive than a D4.

Because you're comfortable and could drive it forever doesn't mean the vehicle is, just means your expectations are lower.

I apologise if my comments struck a nerve. Your decisions are yours to make, I was just having a laugh. If you're going to hang around the Defender crowd after selling your new 110, expect some friendly banter

I never said the Defender is a more comfortable vehicle than the D4 anyway, I just disagree that it's as bad to live with as you say for the reasons that I mentioned. That isn't because my expectations are lower than yours, it's because we like different things.

Some people like to drive, some like to be driven. There's no right or wrong choice.

I maintain that my MY16 is a very nice, very comfortable little truck to live with. You can call it a toy as much as you like and I'll just keep on looking forward to my next drive