Thread: What did you do to your Puma today?

Here's a little video that gives the argument that the ATB's are useless once wheels are lifted..... but I wonder what happens when a little brake pedal is applied? Are these ATB Diff's the same as the Torsen Diff Centres?

Originally Posted by DiscoMick

39 pounds is OK.

Went to order one today, and they are out of stock! Not only that, the website is closed, temporarily!

Originally Posted by Robmacca

Here's a little video that gives the argument that the ATB's are useless once wheels are lifted..... but I wonder what happens when a little brake pedal is applied? Are these ATB Diff's the same as the Torsen Diff Centres?

If that's atbs at work then ill take selectable lockers evertime thanks.

So they turned the traction control off, and obviously don't know about applying the brake. Should have just driven straight through that

Originally Posted by Robmacca

Curious here for my own benefit... Could u please explain as to why?

Did your vehicle have traction control as well?

Would u say the same for a vehicle that doesn't have TC?

rob

Was fitted to my highly modified D1 so no TC.

Rear locker wants to just point you at the sky, driving the wheels at the rear and forcing the front to lift regardless (if not driven to avoid such).

Click in the front diff, on a high grip but cross axle situation and then attempt to steer - almost impossible - stresses on the steering increase significantly.

In a straight line not so bad but trying to exit with a turn becomes a challenge with the vehicle wanting to go straight at all costs.

ATBs however will load up but allow some steering, rendering vehicle control back to the operator.

DP

Originally Posted by Tombie

Was fitted to my highly modified D1 so no TC.

Rear locker wants to just point you at the sky, driving the wheels at the rear and forcing the front to lift regardless (if not driven to avoid such).

Click in the front diff, on a high grip but cross axle situation and then attempt to steer - almost impossible - stresses on the steering increase significantly.

In a straight line not so bad but trying to exit with a turn becomes a challenge with the vehicle wanting to go straight at all costs.

ATBs however will load up but allow some steering, rendering vehicle control back to the operator.

Tombie, sorry mate but id take selectable lockers any day.

In a cross axle situation I'd assess the line im going to take, engage my locker/lockers if both needed and focus on driving my line and my throttle input and complete that drive as slowly as possible with no loss of control or wheel spin. Less stress on drive components and less damage to the track.

Ps i always locked my centre diff atb as soon as i suspected i might have a loss of traction, i never waited for it to slip and then engage. Serious 4wding to me is to drive as slow as possible and as fast as necessary. Control is everything

Agree. Although many of the tracks I drove had one line.. that was all there was... and several weren’t a crawl as you couldn’t clear the section.

To each their own though.

There are trails I can drive with TC that a locked combo just couldn’t do without pace and/or damage occurring.