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    Quote Originally Posted by landoman View Post

    the front diff oil was a deep gray to black in colour

    many thanks
    the inner seal that separates the diff centre from swivel ball is leaking. the grey colouring is coming from the oneshot grease. i wouldn't worry about it. the oneshot has ingredients for the CV joint that include graphite (the grey). be concerned if its milky

    unrelated, english american = gray. english english = grey
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    some added info...

    replace the diff drain plugs with ones that have a magnet in them.
    Regards
    Daz


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    Quote Originally Posted by MLD View Post
    the inner seal that separates the diff centre from swivel ball is leaking. the grey colouring is coming from the oneshot grease. i wouldn't worry about it. the oneshot has ingredients for the CV joint that include graphite (the grey). be concerned if its milky

    unrelated, english american = gray. english english = grey
    thanks for that much appreciated
    after some further research I thought it might be that ?..I'm going to check the grease levels in the ball joints

    this is a photo ( not a real good one )of the front diff oil ?I could be described a a little grey or milky

    if it was milky what is the significance of that ?IMG_0123.jpgIMG_0123.jpgIMG_0124.jpg

    I did put a strong magnet in the drained oil and no particles were observed

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    Quote Originally Posted by MLD View Post
    the inner seal that separates the diff centre from swivel ball is leaking. the grey colouring is coming from the oneshot grease. i wouldn't worry about it. the oneshot has ingredients for the CV joint that include graphite (the grey). be concerned if its milky

    unrelated, english american = gray. english english = grey
    thanks for that much appreciated
    after some further research I thought it might be that ?..I'm going to check the grease levels in the ball joints

    this is a photo ( not a real good one )of the front diff oil ?
    It could be described a a little grey or milky

    if it was milky what is the significance of that

    ?IMG_0123.jpgIMG_0123.jpgIMG_0124.jpg

    I did put a strong magnet in the drained oil and no particles were observed

    Yes I'll look at fitting magnetic plugs ?..any idea where I might find them

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    Quote Originally Posted by landoman View Post
    thanks for that much appreciated
    after some further research I thought it might be that ?..I'm going to check the grease levels in the ball joints

    this is a photo ( not a real good one )of the front diff oil ?I could be described a a little grey or milky

    if it was milky what is the significance of that

    ?IMG_0123.jpgIMG_0123.jpgIMG_0124.jpg

    I did put a strong magnet in the drained oil and no particles were observed
    That it has water in it.

    Tony

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    Quote Originally Posted by TonyC View Post
    That it has water in it.

    Tony
    Yes that definitely possible too ????..what would I do to remedy this ??check the breather on the diff ?.not sure where to find it ?has been suggested to rechange that diffs oil again in 5000 kms ??but if it's water getting in where would I look to fix the problem

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    Quote Originally Posted by landoman View Post
    Yes that definitely possible too ????..what would I do to remedy this ??check the breather on the diff ?.not sure where to find it ?has been suggested to rechange that diffs oil again in 5000 kms ??but if it's water getting in where would I look to fix the problem
    The breather is in the top of the housing on the passenger (long) side of the diff.
    It should have a hose on it that heads up into the engine bay, make sure this is higher than the deepest water you play in, the rear breather is often lower than the front one.

    Check the hose is not blocked or broken, the fitting in the axle housing can get blocked as well, it can be unscrewed to clean it out, there is a washer on each side of the banjo fitting, don't lose them.

    The attached pic is a Disco, but my 95 Defender is the same.

    Tony
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    Quote Originally Posted by TonyC View Post
    The breather is in the top of the housing on the passenger (long) side of the diff.
    It should have a hose on it that heads up into the engine bay, make sure this is higher than the deepest water you play in, the rear breather is often lower than the front one.

    Check the hose is not blocked or broken, the fitting in the axle housing can get blocked as well, it can be unscrewed to clean it out, there is a washer on each side of the banjo fitting, don't lose them.

    The attached pic is a Disco, but my 95 Defender is the same.

    Tony

    Thanks for that ?..I'll have a good look a check out won't hurt.

    after further research on google looks like my oil colour ( gray/greenish ) and is as pointed out above due to the migration of the ball joint grease

    I found a video of what milky diff oil looks like and it was pretty white not what I had

    Now going to check the grease in my ball joints.

    I'm a stumbling learner in Land Rover maintenance??..so appreciate the patience and help

    so far have saved a fortune on service costs?.love it

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    [QUOTE=landoman;3253424]
    Now going to check the grease in my ball joints./QUOTE]

    it will be hard to measure the one shot in the ball joint if it's a later defender. there is no overflow port like in the D1 where you can remove the plug and dip your finger into the hole to check the level. The swivel ball takes 400ml of oil to the overflow hole. The oneshot grease is pretty expensive for what it is. You can take NGLI2 CV grease and add a little gear oil to it to thin it. That is what one shot really is. Early landies ran their CVs in gear oil. I think the change to grease came from the need to mitigate the leaks from the swivel ball. If you can't check the level but have concerns, drop in 100ml of gear oil otherwise you might have to strip it down and start afresh.
    MLD

    Current: (Diggy) MY10 D130 ute, locked F&R, air suspension and rolling on 35's.
    Current: (but in need of TLC) 200tdi 110 ute & a 300tdi 110 ute.
    Current: (Steed) MY11 Audi RS5 phantom black (the daily driver)
    Gone: (Dorothy) MY99 TD5 D110

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