Thread: Who else is going over to the dark side?

Originally Posted by Arch

It has its own special flavour.

The kool-aid syndrome is something to be mindful of though, you dont want to sound like a landcruiser driver.

I love my RRS but its not the first car I'd jump into for an outback trek. I have all the admiration for those who do though.

For an outback trek - not a trip - I’d build a “for purpose” Light Truck

For a zip up a track or across a broad part of Australia knowing it would only be a few weeks - I’d happily take any vehicle I knew the servicing and history of.

Originally Posted by Tombie

For an outback trek - not a trip - I’d build a “for purpose” Light Truck

For a zip up a track or across a broad part of Australia knowing it would only be a few weeks - I’d happily take any vehicle I knew the servicing and history of.

A canter 4x4 or other similar light truck is really starting to appeal to me the more I see them.

Our 2009 Defender has had the clutch replaced because the springs started rattling, but it still worked.
Other than that it's just been servicing and maintenance.
I could write a VERY long post about the history of problems with the BIL's 80 series Landcruiser.

Originally Posted by ramblingboy42

it isn't really the dark side is it....maybe more light and commonsense prevailing there.

I haven't looked back since , not one warranty claim, not one service issue , not one , not even simplest reliability issue . I broke a passenger grab handle swinging into/out of the car and the spare wheel winch faded so far.

If you owned any 2012 Land Rover product , what problems have you incurred in the ten years?

Sleep easy on the dark side.

Originally Posted by DiscoMick

Our 2009 Defender has had the clutch replaced because the springs started rattling, but it still worked.
Other than that it's just been servicing and maintenance.
I could write a VERY long post about the history of problems with the BIL's 80 series Landcruiser.

Wait and see how the Puma is going once its the same sort of age and K's the 80 is now,the 80 probably getting on for 27yrs old plus.
I bet it has had many owners with unknown history as well.

Talking about 80's,have a look at what they are worth,then compare that to a D1 of the same age,condition,and K's

Originally Posted by scarry

Wait and see how the Puma is going once its the same sort of age and K's the 80 is now,the 80 probably getting on for 27yrs old plus.
I bet it has had many owners with unknown history as well.

Talking about 80's,have a look at what they are worth,then compare that to a D1 of the same age,condition,and K's

Yep, and I'd still rather have a D1.....

It doesn't make sense I know!

Originally Posted by scarry

Wait and see how the Puma is going once its the same sort of age and K's the 80 is now,the 80 probably getting on for 27yrs old plus.
I bet it has had many owners with unknown history as well.

Talking about 80's,have a look at what they are worth,then compare that to a D1 of the same age,condition,and K's

Let's add some flesh to the bones and some humor whilst remaining on the topic (for the moment):


Toyota LandCruiser 80 Series common problems and solutions - Unsealed 4X4 - Issue 066

Originally Posted by Tombie

I like LR cool-aid

Having said that I spend a lot of time in other “reliable” brands and none has lived up to it.

I do smile every time I get back in the Landy

Not many vehicles have the cachet that the classic Defender does. I saw an immaculate Toyota FJ40 parked at Woolworths in Lithgow...I got it as much as I get my Land Rover.

Originally Posted by shack

Yep, and I'd still rather have a D1.....

It doesn't make sense I know!

D1 is still a lot of car for the money,as is the D2.